Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the Dr. Random podcast. I'm Dr. Sarah, and here's the deal. We don't do boxes here.
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All right. Hello and welcome to the Dr. Random Podcast. I'm Dr. Sarah, and today we have a great guest. I'm so excited. Christopher Marsala.
And Christopher is a transformational speaker and a spiritual intuitive coach and a professional writer. He's a creator. He is the creator and sensual seductress of Stars, Sex and Soul, a private healing and coaching practice that he established in 2013 and he relaunched in 2023.
And in addition to being the publisher of Tantric Lovers at Oracle cards of 2023, he has been featured as a guest on Marty Murphy's Maddie Murphy's Cosmic Rx radio podcast.
And he's a devoted performer of the stage. He has held lead roles in Phantom of the Opera, Elton John and Tim Rice's Aida and Twelfth Night, and in addition to performing at international venues such as St. Peter's Basilica, Basilica at the Vatican in Rome in Italy for 5 o' clock Mass and Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.
And his deepest heart's desire is, when it comes to speaking and performing, is to hold safe space for everyone, to get raw and real and guide others to the juicy joy that allows us to embody our most un. Effingly apologetic selves and gather in ways that generate and revolutionize collective change on a soul level.
And Christopher holds his MFA in Elementary Education in Music from University of Bridgeport in 2020 and a BFA in music and Women's and Gender Studies from Hulenberg College. Did I say that correctly?
[00:02:30] Speaker B: Muhlenberg College.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: Muhlenberg College.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: I'm going to a lot of pronunciation.
[00:02:34] Speaker A: Yes, you are. That's fine. Okay. Yeah. So, just amazing.
And so today, our topic is basically the cosmos and the heavens, the stars and astronomy and all of that astrology. So going into this talk, I was, you know, been thinking about the cosmos a lot and how amazing it is. But it's interesting because I do a little daily devotional myself every day. And it was so funny. I got up yesterday morning and I went into my devotional, and the verse was, our God is in heaven, he does what he pleases in Psalm 115:3. And I was like, wow.
And so it Just made me think about how, you know, just our universe basically hangs in this mass of stars and. Yeah. So, Christopher, I want to ask you, has. Is there anything you want to start off before we dive into our conversation? Anything?
[00:03:26] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness, no. First of all, I. You did a tremendous job. I threw you so many curve balls with pronunciation, and I've. I even hearing all of that, I'm considering. Oh. How all these journeys and places I've been. I feel like I'm. I'm a true celestial traveler.
But I'm just so excited to be on the show. Thank you so much for having me. Dr. Sarah.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: Jennifer.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: Dr. Sarah. Dr. Lavarone.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: We should say Dr. Sarah. That's fine. Or Dr. Ren.
Yeah.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: But really thrilled to be here and just dive into a really juicy dialogue about the cosmos, spirituality, intersections, even some historical, you know, weaving it all in, into a really cohesive narrative.
[00:04:04] Speaker A: Yeah, great. I'm so excited. And so has astrology been historically exclusive only to mystics and sages?
[00:04:14] Speaker B: Well, it's really exciting and really fun that you kind of bring that up, because I think about even in the early, early days of civilizations before where knowledge was in some ways limited, or there was gatekeeping, or if you were in a particular role, like you were serving, you know, royal clergy or you were serving the religious clergy, there was a certain access that you had to books and texts. And I think also considering, you know, even thousands of years ago, you have the Egyptians, you have these ancient civilizations that were, you know, very nature based, very celestially based, but there still wasn't as much information the way we have today with, you know, we have the advent of artificial intelligence, we have chatgpt, we have computers. I still remember when my first computer arrived in 1998, and I just do a throwback, and I thought that was exciting.
But I think that it's, you know, really timely that we're talking about this, especially with the holiday season coming up, to consider how the three wise men found Jesus. And they, they were astronomers, they were astrologers, they had some knowledge of that, how savvy they were.
And indubitably, they had to be wise because they were learned men. They had knowledge not just in astrology and astronomy, because they clearly had to find Jesus. King Herod sent them on a mission, a little bit of a malicious one at that, but all the other aspects of, you know, mathematics, physics, you know, the way that whatever inventions they had at the time, they had to have some basic understanding. And even historically, I was actually reflecting on this before we ended Our conversation that the founding fathers of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, they were also very much astronomers and astrologers and devoted to the stars so much that they actually created what's called the grand water trine. And, and it has to do with picking specific dates in particular seasons of the year. So originally, Inauguration Day was March 4th, which is during Pisces season.
[00:06:07] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: Election Day was November 4th, Scorpio season, we just had it. And July 4th, which was our country's birthday. And basically a trine is just a triangular figure that is meant to be very harmonious and was really meant to ensure the success of democracy, was meant to ensure the prosperity and, and good fortune and providence of the United States for many years to come. So it's, there's a lot to be said about that. But it's interesting to even know that these historical figures, who again, we think of as very learned, Benjamin Franklin was all of his inventions. George Washington, this incredible military leader, the first president. And they were very much into celestial astrological activity.
So I think hearkening back to that, really, because they were men that had access to information, they were educated. I think in, in those ways, it was limited to those who knew. But I think, you know, it always tends to slip through to the right people that are meant to bring it to the masses. And I feel excited that we get to have this conversation and talk about influences and just kind of sort of deep sea dive, because I know not everybody has their own connection to astrology, but, you know, we definitely have celestial bodies, we have astronomy, we have the cosmos in outer space, God in heaven. So clearly there's some underlying threads of connection.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: Yes. And I just, you know, I love that. And I do remember running across tidbits of information about how they were into astronomy and all that, the forefathers. And so, yeah, and that's. And I love that you brought up the Magi and the star of Bethlehem that led Jesus, because I actually had that to save at the end. But I'll talk about it now because you brought it out. But in Matthew tonight, it says, you know, the Magi and the star of Bethlehem that led them to Jesus. And the Magi were ancient astrologers and astronomers who were described in the Gospel of the Bible of Matthew as following the star of Bethlehem. And in astrology, the star is interpreted as a such a celestial omen, and so potentially the conjunction of the planets as a comet signifying the birth of a king, while the Bible presents it as a sign from God that led The Magi to. To Jesus. And we have seen the star in the east and have come to worship the star moved ahead of the Magi and stopped over the place where the child.
With some Christian perspectives, they interpret the star as the supernatural event and a miracle of God, while others see it as a natural phenomenon used by God to lead the match. I to the Magi to Jesus to visit. And it's an epiphany on the 12th day of Christmas. I guess this is how some view it. So I love that you brought that up, especially because we're coming into Christmas season. So I love that we can tie in the cosmos with that a thousand percent.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: And also considering that technology was not existent the way it is today, we have apps where we can pull out our phone and actually see that bright star in the sky is Venus or some other constellation.
To think that there was still some of that mystery and mysticism.
I think that also lends itself beautifully and kind of translates wonderfully in like that sort of ways of ancient times into today. So, yeah, yeah.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: And I actually remember being a little girl around Christmas time where I would go stand outside and look up in the sky and see and I'd like look for the star.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: I know.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: And so, you know, but I just think when I look back I'm like, oh, that's so cute. Like you're little and you're out there and you know that the star. I like, find that so symbolic of Christmas time, the star, you know, the percent.
[00:09:38] Speaker B: I think we're always all seeking because there's one of my favorite texts. I actually am really into A Course in Miracles with Marianne Williamson and which has similar Christian ideologies, but sort of in a psychotherapeutic way and thinking about the cosmos like there's this. There's a line in A Course in Miracles that says it's as if an ancient melody that's always bringing you back towards home.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: And.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: And I think when I look up to the stars, I remember many, many years ago when I was starting out in my career and I would have my early morning coffee at 5 o' clock before the world began and seeing the deep blue, midnight blue velvet opulence and to see all those shimmering stars, there is a sense of feeling humble but knowing that you're connected to all of it. It puts things in such a cosmic, celestial perspective that's really almost calming and grounding because it's not, you know, we go through our days and, you know, we're packing our schedules or connecting to other people. We have our own mini dramas that unfold naturally. But to consider in the grand scheme of it all, there are these, you know, there's this incredible order and there's a. There's a beauty to that and not having to be the one to hold it all together.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: And Christopher, what gets you excited about astrology and the cosmos and how kind of you illuminate our understanding and navigating the human experience.
[00:10:54] Speaker B: I'm so happy you brought up this question because I really believe that everybody just like a star, we're all incredibly unique and then we have this indelible imprint. Everybody has their own sole purpose. And I really believe whatever you believe, whether it's God, whatever spiritual subscription you connect to, whatever higher power you connect to, being able to illuminate those gifts, those talents, and to really live out, you know, sort of your dramatic journey. You know, people think about, you know, I want to be a star and do this, but you know, are you starring in your own life? Are you really living into what allows you to be fully expressive? And so when I'm looking at clients, when I'm doing chart readings for clients, what I really love is basically when I put it through my astrology software, I use computers, I get a birthday, I put in their time of birth, their place of birth. Those are sort of the critical pieces of info to cast a chart.
And then I kind of. It kind of spits out this beautiful almost, if you will, a screenshot of where the stars and the planets were at the time of your birthday. And that's you that never changes. And even people who are twins that are born as twins, that it's always just a little bit different. So there's no quite chart, one chart that's really the same as the other. But when it comes to empowering others, I think we live in a world where it's very easy to be a square peg at a round hole to consider. You know, I have to work only within this one convention or there's only one or two ways of doing things. And when it comes to astrology, the way the planets interact with us, the personalities we get to express, it really is more about what is going to be my authentic operating system so that I can really live into my purpose. Most people know their birthday too. Like I know my birthday is coming up December 21, Sagittarius. But just because there's that one sign, all the 12 signs influence in some way in our life. So the way you spend money, that part of your life might be completely different from the way that you love or the way that you're in friendship. The way you communicate might be totally different from the way you like to travel or the way you focus on your health and wellness. So there are all these. There are 12 main dimensions in astrology that focus on sort of the 12 domains of life. And I mean, you could throw some things out at me and like, try to give me a curveball, but I think there's always some multiple connection where you can see, oh, what are sort of my gifts and talents that are coming through. Like, for instance, I, you know, full Sagittarius, but I also have an Aries moon and a lot of planets and fire signs, which are very active, very much about passion, drama, wanting to light people up, wanting to do things that are adventurous and risk taking. Not everybody works that way. Some people are more focused on Earth signs like Taurus, Virgo and Capricorn, which are very money making, very stable. The water signs, which are Scorpio, Pisces, Cancer. Very emotional, very intuitive, very creative. I'm sure you have some water in your charts too, seeing the beautiful artwork. And then air signs like Gemini, Libra and Aquarius, which are known to be very intellectual, very, very sociable. The social butterflies.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: I'm a Gemini.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: Yes, yes.
And you've had some big cosmic changes coming up too, with like, yeah, there's, there's, this has been quite a year. So if you've, if you've gone through an iOS upgrade you did not subscribe for, energetically speaking, don't worry because 2026 is going to kind of give you a fresh start for new beginnings. But this, even for me, in the 12, 13 years I've been doing astrology, I've never seen all the cosmic changes and seismic shifts. Really, it's been a lot, even for me, as I'm navigating it. Okay. Even knowing it, there's a difference between having that intellectual knowing and then the experiential of like, oh, like I can know a full moon is coming, but then when the full moon hits, you're like, oh. I'm like, this was the flavor that I can ask for. And I'm lucky that I usually I'm in a setting in my, in my daily job where I get to use music, I get to be very, you know, I get to have that creative outlook, which is super helpful.
But I would say in terms of empowerment, really knowing that you're not meant to live within one cookie cutter format of yourself, knowing that, you know what, like, that also gives you the Ability to forgive yourself and be able to think, oh, wow, like, I'm not meant to be like everybody else. How do I live in a way that. And make choices that will not only suit my personality but also suit my soul level on a deeper purpose. And I know for those that are spiritual and religious, you know, we all want to connect to that higher love. We want to see that in our relationships and our finances and our health.
All the dimensions of life that really matter.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: Yes.
And it's funny, because my next thing I wanted to actually bring up the movie, only you. Have you seen it?
[00:15:20] Speaker B: I have not seen this movie, but it sounds very familiar.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: So give me so Little Robert Downey Jr. And Marissa Tomei, and they're in Italy. And I love it because there's this part where he goes up and he's upset. She's on this date with this other guy, and he's, like, in love with her. And.
And then this kind of old fisherman Italian goes, dustino. He goes, it is written in the stars. And I remember that line. For some reason, I love that movie. But I think about, you know, So I don't know, I just. I just love that movie anyways, so I just throw that in there.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: But always sounds better in Italian, too, this thing.
[00:16:03] Speaker A: Yeah, the steam, though. Okay. And so tell me about celestial and planetary timing. Is everything truly written in the stars by the fates, or does free will play more of a role than we give it credit for, in your opinion?
[00:16:16] Speaker B: What a phenomenal question. So the first thing I want to say, and I think maybe this may take the pressure off some of the skeptics, but astrology is a choice enhancer, not a choice maker. I would never advise somebody to totally blow up their life, do something totally crazy, unless it's something that you really feel called to do. You feel on, like, a gut level, I have to just do an Eat, Pray Love journey and kind of transform my life. Some people are meant to have that. But I think ultimately astrology is a choice enhancer, not a choice maker, as my mentor Maddie Murphy would say.
And when I think about. Even when I've done readings and even looking at my own chart, there are certain karmic lessons, certain life themes that we're gonna go through inevitably. And even taking astrology off the table, we're gonna have, you know, joys, we're gonna have triumphs, we're gonna have tribulations, we're gonna have some really hard moments. And that's part of the ecstasy and agony of the human experience. That's part of being just alive. And I think when I was younger I thought if I could be clever enough to know the timing everything, I could out hack that. And I will say sometimes I do get lucky and because I'm also just very attuned to the timing of my life and I can just see opportunities when they come. I can see people that might be in a position to be in a relationship or business partnership. I can see those opportunities coming a little bit quicker. You know, there's a saying everybody has a Saturn, everybody has a Pluto. Like everybody. And there's no bad planets. There's nothing that's, you know, cosmically doomed. When I look at a chart in certain there's something called houses. Like I talked about the 12 areas of life. There's sort of these pie shaped. Think of a pizza pie or an apple pie with holly season. I'm getting hungry.
You know, there are planets in these parts of our chart and it's very rare that somebody has a planet in every single house. But wherever I see those planets, there's some psychological pull or some. There's something that's meant to be worked out out or expressed. Sometimes it's really great. Like if you have Venus in your seventh house that's really beautiful for love and relationships, you're probably really great at connecting with others. Probably very successful marriage or anything. Interior design, anything that's like artsy and beautiful.
[00:18:17] Speaker A: I love that song.
I love that song. Anyway, sorry.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: I love it. You have a lovely voice too. Thinking about the sense that I think with when it comes to timing, like we have this very big year and right now even currently as of recording, there's like five planets that are in retrograde motion. And what that means from our vantage point on Earth, it seems like they're moving backwards. So retrograde is a great time to do anything with the prefects re like redo, revisit, reconnect, rebuild. And with water sign energy too. It's very much intuitive, emotional, dreamy, but also taking action on it. Like, you know I have this brilliant idea for a painting but if I don't act on it, it's not gonna create itself. You still need the healing vessel. You need to like do the thing to get it done. You know, we could talk about star crossed lovers and, and sometimes you do see a connection where you know, if there's a Pluto complex, Pluto is sort of the underworld daddy of the zodiac. It's very, it's, it's definitely okay. It can be a little bit, can be a little Bit fiery. Very, very tricky. But it's ultimate. You know, that planet's about transformation. You're never going to be on the same person on the other side of it as you were before. And sometimes it's really a blessing because it allows you to be empowered and to be fully awakens to anything that is preventing you or blocking you from that potential. Same thing with a planet like Saturn. Saturn is considered the taskmaster. It's very much about responsibility, personal trainer planet. And it's not gonna let you cut any corners. It's not gonna let you take a day off unless you've really been putting in the work. And then it's like, okay, I'll give you the day off.
But I would say that nobody's doomed. There are people that have, you know, they can have a great chart, and because of their free will or the choices they're making, you know, they're not going to live into their potential. They're not going to have the same life. And ironically, it's the ones that maybe sometimes have more challenging placements or have things going on with timing that, you know, diamonds aren't built. You know, they don't just chill. Like, they're forged under incredible pressure. So that there's something to that alchemy, again, of the human experience that also ties in with free will and with action.
Thank you for being so gracious. I know I'm a little, little spicy.
I feel myself this birthday season, but I would say that nothing is ever. We always get to write the final chapter. We always get to write the final sentence, whatever the cosmos throws at us. They might have a few dialogue lines, they might give us some prompts, if you will. But ultimately, the way we choose to respond to that, that lies up to us. And I feel like as an astrologer, as an intuitive coach, my role is to really facilitate that and empower you to come from a place of soul integrity. Not just also doing something because you want to, but also how does it benefit others? How does it benefit the world, the collective, all of that.
[00:20:58] Speaker A: And just curious, because you. I just had a vision of, like, me working on my doctor. It's almost like I felt like I was kind of in this, like, basement or cave or, like, thing underneath the ground. Like, working and not barely going out to see the light of day. Like, that's how I felt sometimes. Like, working on it while working, Like, I. I felt like I just had to put anything I wanted to do that was fun for myself to the side, you know, and then I Kind of like. Kind of like I emerged out. Hi, here I am. And now I'm doing my art website and my podcast, you know, but it was like. It's like I've been doing all this work for, like, years, and then all of a sudden, you know.
[00:21:41] Speaker B: And I'm so happy you mentioned that, too. Also, like Gemini, in true fashion, Gemini is one of the most misunderstood and underappreciated signs of the zodiac. I'm sorry if I bumped the mic.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: No, you're fine.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: But intellect, anything with speaking, teaching, writing, you're meant to do that. And there was probably a period, and it would be really curious if I ever saw your chart, to see maybe there was that time where you needed to be in sort of the creative basements in order to be able to, on the other side, have this production where it's like, okay, now all the things are coming out. And one of my favorite teachers, Sonia Chekt, who is so influential, she has a saying that just because you're not doing something doesn't mean nothing's being done. And sometimes, you know, you are chopping the wood and carrying the water. That's as much as part of the magical process as the sort of celestial aha's, or, you know, if you call it the Holy Spirit that's having something, that's a divine grace intervening in your life. You know, they. They marry each other. Well, so it's important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater and to. To know that everything has its place.
But, yeah, you're. You're definitely, you know, you were meant to question and dig deeper, and you have this fabulous doctorate. And, you know, you're.
You have the physical manifestation of all the things that you were really conscientiously putting into, which is admirable.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: Thank you.
And, you know, thinking about what we were just kind of speaking on real quick is, you know, manifesting stuff. So I feel like with, like, for instance, my art right now is gonna be in an art show in Venice. So I'm really excited. I just. I just shipped some of my art off to Venice, and I'm so excited. And I just, you know, I love Venice. And, like, you know, even the movie I talked about was in Venice, and I had. I. I loved it when I was in Venice, and I met some great people when I was in Venice, too, and traveling and studying abroad and.
And, yeah, I just. I don't know. Venice has a special place in my heart. So it's funny that I am at the art show now. It's funny and love it. But. And you know, the next thing I kind of want to talk about is.
[00:23:43] Speaker B: I want to go back for a second talk about Venice because I one just there's a whole other branch of astrology called astrocartography. And so sometimes we are drawn to places. So there's, you know, the planets and how they're working in our zodiac signs and the different areas of our lives.
But then there's also putting that out into the world. And this came out back in the late 90s. But a man named Jim Lewis basically created the system where you can superimpose your birth chart over the entire map and see where would be really fortunate for you. Where could you fall in love? Where could you do business and have real estate? Where could you really find your tribe? And so I think it's, you know, I love anything travel. I'm a true SAG at heart.
But I think with manifesting, I want to go back and touch on that because anybody can manifest. We're meant to create, I don't think. You know, again, whether you believe in God, whether you believe in spirit, whatever you, you call that higher power. You know, part of the joy of the human experience is creation. I think there's a distinction between manifesting and co creation because, you know, you can manifest a million dollars. You know, people can do that, you can do the logistical things. But what's the heart motive behind it? Yes, you put the energy of the heart, anything you do with the energy of love is infectious and so attractive and engaging. And of course, like I can tell that you love Venice and Italy. You light up when you talk about it. So, so those things that light us up again, I love talking about that because that's also part of speaking your dream to life, like using the words to sort of weave those magic spells.
Of course you take the actions. Of course you, you do what you do. But I'm so excited to thank see where this art journey takes you. Internationally acclaimed artist. Yeah.
[00:25:20] Speaker A: And. And since you're in music, I'll just mention real quick, I actually used to play violin as a little girl and I used to have to take private lessons and I kind of dreaded it. And of course now that I'm older, I'm more appreciative of it. And I wish I would have kept doing it, but when I was little, I like kind of, I was in during the summer I would see all the kids out playing and I'd be in my violin lessons and violin recitals.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:41] Speaker A: But you know, and Then I. You're going to laugh at this. I decided I wanted to play guitar in high school, but I went from. I started with the electric guitar before doing the acoustic guitar. And everybody's like, you're a little backwards there. I just wanted to like go crazy on the electric guitar. And they're like, well, you need to get some basics first and start with acoustic. I was like, okay. I thought that was boring, but maybe that's the Gemini in me. I'm like, I just wanted to go crazy on the electric guitar.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: You want to have the rock star vibe. Why not? Why not? And you know, I admire any strings players. I'm definitely more of a vocalist. I play piano. I taught myself when I was in grad school and it was. It was very intimidating even having something with four strings. So I admire. I admire your gumption to just go for it because I. I also got to play a little electric guitar when I was in college. And it's like, you know, you just need that moment to like live your dream and to just strum those power chords. Yeah. And you know, just. That's also part of the joy of life. Just being.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: I did my senior pictures with my guitar.
Embarrassing now.
[00:26:47] Speaker B: Are they the archive somewhere? Can we.
[00:26:50] Speaker A: And then. And then it's funny because I actually went to a deaf Leopard Kiss concert and I got to go backstage. So I got to take a picture with the guitar backstage, which is a really awesome picture I have. That was probably like about 10 years ago, but it was awesome. But.
But yeah. And then I wanted to go into. There's been a lot of talk about 3i Atlas. Are there any speculations or anything you want to share?
[00:27:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:15] Speaker A: In regards to Three Eye Atlas, because I find it fascinating. So thousand. And I don't know what to. With the content out there, it's hard to know totally what to like really is. Is actually like, you know, is this peer reviewed?
[00:27:31] Speaker B: No, no, no, Totally. No, I'm happy and I want to.
I'm thinking of the way to approach this because it's also very funny the way we started our conversation talking about the star of Bethlehem and pretending the coming of Jesus.
I think that it's definitely an unusually illuminatory celestial body. And I think that it's also interesting that again with all these retrograde planets right now, part of that is also in secrecy. Water signs can kind of hide secrets. So things coming to light. I think in coming months we're really going to start to know a little bit more gradually and gradually. You know, I Don't think it's any surprise that there's been talk of potential extraterrestrial activity or alien life or. I know uap, uafs, there's all the new terminology. It's not UFO anymore. But I think there is something to be considered that if the universe is as expansive and as big as it is, would we be the only sentient beings in the universe or could it be potential that there's more? I think I get excited thinking about that. That also brings a whole other host of things. And again, we don't have a lot of photos from NASA. We've had the government shut down, so we haven't had access to a lot.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: And some people think that that's the conspiracy.
[00:28:41] Speaker B: Why?
So I think there's a little bit of both. I think there's definitely some secrets and I'm not saying that to be totally conspiracy, but usually when there's like heavy hitter planets like Saturn and Neptune that are sort of doing their backstroke dive in the cosmos, there's something going on with like world leaders and the world stage. That's usually when we see those sort of events come to light. I will definitely say that. Also something that started in 2023. Pluto, which I mentioned earlier, which is sort of like the transformational planet, if you believe in that sort of energy. It just moved into Aquarius, which is all about like visionary future thinking.
Aquarius is the Star Trek, Star wars sign. So it will. I think we'll definitely see some interesting moments of contact with potential life that is beyond Earth. But also going back to the point, even bringing it back to Jesus, you know, Jesus for all intents and purposes was technically, in some ways you could consider him an alien because he was not of this world, he was of heaven, which is still, you know, it.
[00:29:42] Speaker A: Might not in a different context.
[00:29:45] Speaker B: So I think again, it's also framing it the way you frame it, the perspective. But I'm, I'm very excited to see what unfolds with Three Eye Atlas. I think that it is, there is something about its brightness that makes me think there might be something more than just fire and cast and you know, the elements that it comprises of.
[00:30:02] Speaker A: It's, it's definitely caught some great attention and yes, skepticism and stuff and the attention of. And I don't know if this source was correct or not, but the scientists are divided on it with how they view it.
[00:30:14] Speaker B: Astounders and astrologers actually have a lot of beef with each other. It's like east west side Story.
They and, and, and it's funny to think that at one point they were merged. Like, you know, there was the science. Um, I've always believed science and faith could. There are many moments of contact where they can go together. But, you know, many decades ago, astronomers were like, nope, we're just going to focus on the scientific part and kind of divorce themselves. So I. I kind of grieve thinking, you know, what if there was collaboration, working together. Yeah. I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon. Yes, I. Yeah, it is definitely interesting to see how the powers that be like science, what.
What their motive is and how they're using information and choosing what to share, what not to share quite yet, et cetera.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: Yeah. And I just wanted to share something with the listeners. This is. And, you know, my belief is my faith Christian with. I look at it like, wow. I'm like, it's just kind of how I feel like if people viewed it more and we're tapped into more thinking, like, God created the expanses of the heavens and the earth. So it's like, if the stars do have a story that we're supposed to pay attention to, I think he probably created it that way. That's how I look at it. But, like. And, you know, I think about the Bible verse of God said, let there be light in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be signs for you for seasons and for days and for years. And that was Genesis 1:14 through 19. And it says there's over 37 Bible verses that discuss astrology. And so it is fascinating to me, and I think that we should try to tie in, like, more faith with astronomy and astrology and all that. And I think, you know, I just think it's. It's there in the Bible, so.
[00:32:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I appreciate that, too, because I also, really. I may not see God in the same exact way that you see it, but I definitely feel it's this, you know, I grew up with. With spiritual, religious tenets and thinking that, you know, God is this incredible energy. Like, think about the grass that grows. Think about it.
[00:32:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:22] Speaker B: The fact that we've made it here in the studio and, you know, we survived me spilling a lemon seltzer water again. Clumsy sag here. But. But just, you know, there's something beautiful to that. There's an ancient quote from the Talmud that says, over every blade of grass, there's an angel whispering, grow, grow. And I. I love that image because to think that there is the celestial order again, to be part of that there's a calm, there's a deep abiding serenity. And knowing that there is a greater plan and we have our part to play in it too. We have free will and agency. But being able to surrender into a higher knowing that's beautiful and peaceful and loving, that is deeply comforting.
[00:32:59] Speaker A: Yeah. And I just think we need to take the time to pay attention to more what's going out in space. It is so beautiful. I was in Lake Tahoe one time and Lake Tahoe, if you're in an area where it gets dark enough, you can see the Milky Way expanse, like just with your naked eye, which is, you know, you can't do that when you live in a city and stuff like that. So. But and being up on a higher elevation in Tahoe, you know, I mean, it was just, it was amazing. I couldn't stop. I think I was like out there for an hour just like staring, but then I was like freezing. It's cold in Tahoe. But. But yeah. And anything else that you think you want to add for today?
[00:33:37] Speaker B: Just, just waxing lyrical to share my own, you know, star studded consolation story. I remember growing up and my dad waking us up middle of the night. We lived in rural Connecticut.
[00:33:45] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:33:46] Speaker B: You can see the stars. There's not, There wasn't light pollution at the time. And to be able to be wrapped in a cozy blanket, drinking hot cocoa from a thermos and seeing a meteor shower or even to see. I know now the northern lights have been more prevalent in, you know, upper New England. That's really exciting. And I think if I were to tell any of your listeners, just allow yourself to be dazzled by the stars and to. Even if you don't believe in all of the astrology or the astronomy of it all, knowing that there is the celestial order, there is something powerful to that, there is something magical to that. And I would say, just touching back on one point about creating, you know, we all have choices. We all have the ability to, you know, create whatever life we want. But when it comes to, again, tying it back to God, there is a power in surrendering control. There is sometimes letting the universe play things out just like you let actors play out in a drama. And knowing that, you know what, I am going to be okay. I am going to live into my truth. And might be shaky, it might be bumpy, but it. There's usually something wonderful waiting on the other side.
[00:34:52] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:34:53] Speaker B: And I think you know, that if I said there's a cosmos, how glorious, how expansive.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: Yes. And you just made me think of something. So growing up, my dad actually would pay attention to what was going out, going on up in the stars, and he would. He had a telescope, and so we would jump in the car, the family station wagon, go get ice cream, and he'd take the. And we'd go look at whatever was going on, which was really cool, whether it was a comet or something with the planets.
So that was neat that he paid attention to that.
And something kind of fun, too. I'll just mention real quick when I found out growing up that he actually had hope that I don't get in trouble for talking about this, but he had a, you know, top security clearance, and he was in communications.
He. I would. I started asking him when I got older. I'm like, so, is Ariel 51 real? Or they're aliens? Or. I'd be like. I started asking him questions, and it was so funny because, like, you would think dad would be like, yes. No. He'd just go, I don't know.
I was like, does that mean yes?
[00:35:51] Speaker B: Amazing. Like, is that. Is that. Let's say blink once if you mean yes, blink twice if it's maybe.
And how cosmically karmic that we're having this convo. And just to wax lyrical with you. That's funny. That's top security clearance when it's off. I don't know.
I'm sure he did know.
[00:36:12] Speaker A: This has been so fun.
[00:36:13] Speaker B: Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Sarah. I'm really so delighted. I love getting to take this journey with you, and I really am excited for what the stars have in store for us in 2026 and beyond.
[00:36:26] Speaker A: Oh, I'm very excited.
[00:36:27] Speaker B: And again, if this was a tricky, challenging year for you, just the general thesis statement, next year is going to be a lot of fresh beginnings. So this was like the cleaning house year. So whenever you get to come out of the house, it's like, put it on the curb, let the drivers take it away, let the garbage truck take it away, and really allow yourself to be lighter and free and buoyant and rise to who you're meant to be in 2026.
[00:36:51] Speaker A: Love it. And I love your blast, by the way. It makes me think of my bright paintings. I love it.
And let's hope in 2026 or. I have a funny goal. Find a man before Christmas. And I'm just.
[00:37:01] Speaker B: You and I have the same goal.
Hey, why not? Why not let it be so?
[00:37:08] Speaker A: All right. All right. Well, thank you again, Christopher Marcella, and signing off here, Dr. Random podcast and we'll say, ciao, ciao.
