Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the Dr. Random podcast. I'm Dr. Sarah, and here's the deal. We don't do boxes here.
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Good afternoon and welcome to the Dr. Random podcast. I'm Dr. Sarah and I'm very excited today because our guest is actually Marissa Alejandra and she is also a dear friend of mine.
And Marissa, I'm so excited for this episode. So Marissa has been captivated by the magic of travel since childhood and inspired by evenings spent watching her dad's slideshows. And each image was a portal to an exciting new adventure.
At just 20, she embarked on her first solo international journey to Guatemala, igniting a lifelong passion for exploration and cultural immersion.
And travel isn't just about ticking off destinations for Marissa. It's a transformative journey that enriches the soul and broadens understanding of the world. And with every adventure, she has witnessed firsthand how travel fosters empathy and compassion and bridging, divides and connecting people on a deeper level. And drawing from her experiences across 15 plus countries spanning across Central America, the Caribbean and Europe, from the vibrant streets of Mexico to the historic wonders of Italy, Marissa has cultivated a deep appreciation for the rich tapestry of cultures that make the world so beautifully diverse.
And as a travel advisor, Marissa thrives on crafting experiences that ignite the senses and rejuvenate the mind, body and spirit. Whether clients seek the thrill of a solo exploration, the warmth of shared adventures with loved ones, or the camaraderie of group travel, she's here to tailor each moment to their desires and create unforgettable experiences and stories that last a lifetime.
So Marissa, as you can see, is just very passionate about travel and I love it. She's actually kind of my go to. When I first had some travel experiences, she's the one I actually spoke to and gave me some amazing advice. And so I love that she's on the podcast today because she's made my travel experiences amazing and wonderful.
And so, Marissa, I'll kind of let you take the floor now.
[00:02:52] Speaker B: Awesome. Well, thanks for having me, Sarah. And I'm glad to know that whatever advice or tips that I provided had you have a wonderful experience. Yeah, travel is amazing, and it is one of those experiences that can be absolutely life changing. If you choose to look at it that way. And, you know, I think there's different kinds of travel. There's like, vacation travel, which. Which is, like, more relaxing. Maybe you go to one place and you're like, I just want to sit and relax and enjoy and not have to think about going different places. And then there's like, you know, travel to explore and adventure and experience new things. There can always be a mix of both. But I book different kinds of travel all the time for my clients. But it's every time that you get to go and, you know, do something new and different. I think that there's, like, an opportunity for us just from, like, a more personal level to change habits or change our mindset or look at things differently or, you know, feel gratitude either for our home or for the new place or whatever that is. You know, travel just has, like, tremendous benefits. And really, you know, like, travel can be whatever you want to create of it. And I think that's the benefit of, like, working with an advisor is that you can say, okay, look, I want to go be into nature, or I want to, like, go relax, or I want to go, like, learn something new, or my interests are food or, you know, my interests are, you know, sports or whatever that is. Right. And a travel advisor can really, like, help you go. Oh. Like, they can go and do the research for you and connect with the people that they know to, like, really craft and curate an experience for you that you don't have to go and do all the work to do. Right. Because it's actually, you know, like, there are some people who I know who, like, never work with a travel advisor because they love the process of researching and finding. But that's not everybody's thing. Right? Like, everybody doesn't have that, like, desire to project, manage themselves into a trip. And so if you're not that type of person or you don't have the time to do that, then that's, like, the perfect opportunity to, like, connect with someone who does do those things so that you can enjoy your trip instead of being stressed before you go or, you know, having to worry about all the details. But yeah, I. I think that I recommend traveling to everyone, to be honest, like, when they have the opportunity to really just, like, make that a part of something that they do before they die. You know, let's make sure that they, like, go see something different. And, like, you know, it's. You can. Sometimes people don't know where to start either. You know, like, maybe it's their first time out of the country and they're like, I need a baby step. I'm not ready to, like, go full on out into the world. What would be a baby step for me? You know, and. And that's something that you can really get from a travel advisor, somebody who travels a lot. So.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: Yes. And I remember the one trip that you really helped me with the most was actually when I went to Paris, and that was my first time alone traveling internationally. And I was there for eight days. And, you know, they have the. Is it the ero di sama? The.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:06:14] Speaker A: The difference. Yes, yes. And so I would say that was the key thing that you gave me advice on, on the areas of where to stay or not stay according. And, you know, it was really fun about my trip that I loved. And I even stayed in some of the places you recommended in eight days in Paris. I actually stayed in three different hotels, which some people might think that's a pain, but actually I love that because I did everything by foot. So I got to experience three different kind of areas within Paris. And there's so much to do in Paris. So I was able to hit up, you know, the museums I wanted to see the cafes, the restaurants, you know, the art galleries, and just go by foot and take in, you know, the beauty of Paris. And, you know, I was a little timid, you know, going by myself the first time internationally, but I know you had done it many times, and I was like, okay, well, Marissa's just the expert here, so.
[00:07:06] Speaker B: And, you know, look, even I get nervous going to a new place. I think that that's like, par for, you know, like, it's anytime you go someone somewhere near, like, that's part of what happens, you know. And so if you feel nervous before you go on a trip or to, like, book a trip, that's okay. It's just normal, you know, like, it's okay to feel nervous. And there are ways that I feel that you can set yourself up, as you mentioned, to make sure that it's more, like, comfortable when you get there. So, like, for example, you and I lived. We. When we met, we lived both in San Diego, right?
And San Diego has terrible public transportation, right? So we're just not used to taking public transport. We're used to driving. We to used. Used to Ubering. And so, like, the idea of, like, taking public transportation in a big city can be really intimidating when you're not used to it, right? And so that's okay, right? Like, it's about, like, finding the ways in the city that you're going to. Or preparing yourself to understand, like, ahead of time what to expect from the city that you're traveling to, like, learning about the place or having someone help you learn about how to navigate those things before you get there. So it. Some of the edge off, you know. Yeah, yeah. But it's totally normal to feel nervous. I totally do when I'm in a new city, you know. But I think you're also right.
Walking is such an incredible way to get to know a city.
It is like, especially Paris is beautiful, like, everywhere, but, like, it's a great way to like, get yourself, you know, to understand where you are and what's around you and, like, get to the place. And so it is definitely, like, nice to stay. I really enjoy. And when I book for clients, I try to find a place that's within their budget that's also very centrally located to everywhere they might want to walk. Right. Or everywhere they might want to visit.
Because then it makes it much easier to, like, enjoy your experience because you're like, oh, I don't have to, like, worry about public transportation. I don't have to worry about getting somewhere. I can just walk out my apartment door or walk out my hotel door and see, like, where I'm, you know, where I'm supposed to go and that sort of thing. And there's so many, like, little tips and tricks, like tools, you know, like, thank goodness you've got like, you know, GPS and maps and all these things you can use these days. You don't have to pull out a paper map anymore.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah. And I know we were going to kind of touch on something I've been talking to you about was kind of almost like planning a trip. Like, say you want to hit up Rome, Milan, Lake Como and Switzerland, which you actually said is very doable with a certain amount of time. Right. And like, for instance, say somebody approached you and said, I want to visit all these places.
And you would probably, you know. Do you want to kind of go over of what you would do for someone who came to you for travel advice on something like that?
[00:10:02] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. I think that the first place that I always start is with flights, so we want to lock down the dates. So when do you want to go? Do you have exact dates that you can go? Do you have flexibility and looking at like, you know, what kind of flight do you want to take? Or some people are on a budget and they're like, I don't care if it takes me like three stops to get there. I want the lowest price ticket and some People are like, I want the direct.
Like, for me, I like the direct overnight so I can sleep on the airplane, like, arrive in the after, you know, whatever it is. Like, what is the ideal time and flights and thinking about, like, you know, do you have kids and do you want to check your luggage and like, how much luggage do you plan to take? And really, like, that first step is locking down the dates and getting your flights booked. Because once you do that, it's real.
Do all the rest of the pieces. But that helps also to make sure that whatever activities that you're doing or museums that you're doing or hotels are available, like, those are the things that, you know, without dates, you can't really put in the exacts and kind of figure out the itinerary until you have that. So usually, I mean, that's the first thing I lock down. Of course, before even doing that, I like to connect with the person who I'm booking travel with, ask them about what kind of experience they want to have. Are they foodies? Do they like history?
Do they like art? I know you like art. Are they into fashion? Like, what are their. Do they want a nature filled experience?
Do they want to be outside?
Do they want to, you know, relax and be peaceful? Or do they want to adventure and explore? You know, finding out all those things so that we can put together, like, the perfect itinerary is really, like, it's a conversation that I get to have with people like, before they go. So, you know, I know that you like art. I know that, you know, that's like a big part of your life. And so for me, like, if I was planning your trip, I'd be like, okay, what are the art type spots that you want to go to? You know, like, what are the things that you want to see? And you may already have an idea of some of the things you want to see. So of course I'd say, all right, Sarah, what do you know that you definitely want to see in those places? Like, what are the things that you're like, okay, I have to go there. Because you want to build your trip around making sure that you hit your top spots. And then after that we can figure out, like, hotels and places like around those areas or in the best areas of town, and, you know, also adding in other little items or things that are worth seeing while you're there. But yes, all those places are very easy to get to all at one time.
[00:12:42] Speaker A: Okay. And I know you and you've been to these places to yourself. So that's what makes you also credible? You've done a lot of travel yourself.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: Spent a lot of time in Europe. Yes, but even if I haven't been somewhere, like, I really try to do a thorough job of doing research for my clients. So like, I feel like it's really important for me to do the research ahead of time and really see like what's there and what's, you know, exciting or interesting. What are the safest neighborhoods to stay in. All that is super important. But for so like starting, I guess like let's say you wanted to go, you said Rome, Milan, Lake Como and Switzerland, right?
So I actually did Milan, Lake Como and Switzerland in one trip. Rome is a little bit further away, but it's great because it's a big city. So that means that there's a lot of international flights to Rome.
So my always, my recommendation is to fly in and out of the city that you, you know, want to visit. That's biggest, right? Usually that's just from a budgetary perspective. You don't have to do that. You can always search to one way flights. Sometimes there are deals when you buy round trip flights, sometimes there's not. So sometimes it's worth just finding, you know, the one ways. So you could like maybe fly, you know, into Rome and out of Milan. But you know, it really just depends on what's the budget.
You know, for example, like my parents, they're like we're too old to like jump from flight to flight. We need direct as many directs and like as much time between flights to, to get to like the next city, right. So you know, really depends on the client and their priorities. And so we'll do a little bit of research on that too. So let's just say for example, I say, okay, fly to Rome and Rome has a lot to see.
So it's, you know, you have to kind of see what you like and I'll ask you the question. So for example, like would you rather do all of your like adventure up front and slow on the backside so that when you get home you're like relaxed and it wasn't too crazy and you're not so tired and exhausted? Usually like that's what I recommend is like, let me just go get all the adventure out of the way and then I'll take it easy at the end of my trip so that when I fly back I'm not trying to recover from my vacation, you know, or it could be the opposite, you know, where you're like, I need a few days to collect myself and I want to be chill the first few days and then go, go, go. So my recommendation would be to fly into Rome or fly in and out of Rome.
And for you, you're an art lover and I feel like, you know, a historian.
And of course Rome has lots of good food.
There are some really great areas that are really, really fun. So this, I went to Rome in April and I stayed near the Borghese Gardens.
So village.
And that was, that was like kind of like north of everything. It was great. I could walk to the Trevi Fountain, I could walk to the Spanish Steps, I could walk into the gardens. It was clean and beautiful and I, I loved it. It's a little bit of a walking distance, but totally doable to walk if you enjoy walking to like the Vatican.
And obviously as an artist, I am sure that you would want to visit the Sistine Chapel. Yes, definitely worth seeing and absolutely beautiful. And then of course there's the Borghese Galleries.
The Vatican. Yes. St. Peter's Basilica is where you would want to definitely like absolutely beautiful. Those are like kind of like the top, top tourist destination in Rome is the Saint, the Vatican, St. Peter's Basilica and the Sistine Chapel. And you do have to book your, your tickets in advance. They sell out very quickly. So getting tickets to see it like in, if you were planning to go in the next two weeks would be hard, especially depending on the season. So like if you're planning to go in the summertime, highly recommend booking far in advance just because it's such a high traffic time.
Yeah, I went in the spring and it was still fairly busy and things were still like pretty populated. And that was, it was in April so it was not even that close.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: It's funny, I recently just spoke with a friend and I find it interesting and I was like, wow, I wonder if he used travel Advisor. It sounds like he's going for Ecuador to do an eight night. Hi. I'm gonna say this wrong.
Ayana Waska retreat and then a 10 day Galapagos expedition and I'm like, wow, that sounds amazing for travel. And you know, one of my bucket list travel things is actually also a safari.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: But I want to do a safari. But it's just so fun talking about travel because. And you know, something I have done with you in the past are your intention setting workshop.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: And that's something I do want to also mention about Marissa. That's amazing. Every year in January I attend her intention setting workshops and it is amazing how we sit there and write things down. And manifest things in our lives. And I can look back, you know, and sometimes I feel like. And you know how this works. Sometimes things don't happen right away. Sometimes it's timing. Like you could look back on something two years later or a year later. It just really is about, you know, how everything comes together. But it truly amazes me how these intention setting workshops really actually work. And I feel like with travel it's huge because, you know, you set your intention, you start to say, oh, I want to go here, I'm going to manifest. I'm dreaming about going to this location. And you think of this dream vacation. And I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about that.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: Too, that the intended settings.
Sure, yeah, absolutely. So, gosh, I have many interests.
One of them. And for the last, gosh, I don't even know. I think it's like 13 years. Every year I gather my friends together and we sit down and we reflect on the year before and we set intentions for the next year.
And these intention settings are so powerful. People come back every year. I've got the same group of people who are like, are you doing it again? Like, I want to do it again. Because there's something that happens when you think the, the way that you kind of like work through a bunch of questions that you ask yourself as you reflect that has you really create what you really want, right? And it's not coming from this place of like.
So, like, if intentions are different than goals just for everybody who doesn't know, like an intention is like an energy or a feeling that you want to have. So like an emotion that you want to experience. So for example, if your intention might be to like experience awe, or it could be to experience adventure, or it could be to be at peace.
And so when you set an intention, you'll begin, you can utilize it kind of like as a guidepost to make decisions over the next year, right? And say like, okay, like, well, I had the intention of being at peace or at ease. Like, what would I do if that were my reality? And you're like, well, I want to book a trip to Switzerland and go to the four season spa or something, right?
Or I want to like experience adventure and magic or something. And I'm going to go to Rome and read my book on a balcony or of a, you know, coffee shop or something, right? And so it's just kind of like a guidepost essentially. And people always come back and they're like, oh my gosh, all of these things that I asked for, you know, showed up that really fulfilled on that intention. And it's just a really fun, fun process to get excited and inspired about the year, right?
[00:20:53] Speaker A: Yes. Super great way to start the year.
[00:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And sometimes travel comes up, you know, and there's also, like, you know, you can do vision boarding. And I have a very specific way to vision board, and one of them is just to, like, flip through magazines and, like, see what stands out to you and, like, grab something and put it on the board. And it definitely, you know, it happens. Like, one year I was just like, oh, this looks nice, and this looks nice, and this looks nice. And then I spent a year in the south of France and I was like, oh, my God, like, this was on the board. And I had no intentions of even, like. Like, I didn't even think about what.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: I know. It's amazing how that works. And I also think that even with, you know, I feel like I'm still setting the intention of romance in my life, but we'll see when that happens.
[00:21:42] Speaker B: That fast.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: Yeah. But yeah, it's, you know, I just think that travel is so special and like, I feel so blessed because even though I was studying abroad with art, you know, for my mfa, my master's in fine art, which I actually just completed and passed my final defense. So yay. Took a long time, but got it done. And I'm excited because that's in. In a way, to me is intention. It's. It's setting up more opportunity for me, which is already kind of opening up, which is awesome for this year. So I'm excited for the opportunities that are happening between having now my MFA and my, you know, doctorate. And it's really exciting and. But yeah, I just want to encourage, like, people to listening. Like, you know, I feel like having somebody who you trust and who you can go to because it does help, you know, to figure things out with traveling. You don't want to go spend all this money on a plane ticket and be abroad and not have a plan. In my opinion, I've actually been complimented on that. I make.
I do so much when I travel abroad. Like, I try to hit off at least, like, at least two or three things a day that I want to see because I feel like, you know, you're here. Just do it. You might be feel tired or whatever, but I feel like you get energy from it when you're doing it. You know, it's amazing how, you know, you get energy from seeing all this stuff. It's so exciting and. But, yeah, I just, I love travel and I feel like once you get the travel bug and you travel, you kind of, you don't want to stop, you want to keep exploring.
[00:23:14] Speaker B: True.
[00:23:15] Speaker A: And, but yeah, it's, it's truly priceless to.
I think what you offer is, is really key and important and I would say people need to utilize somebody like you because I think it will make everything seem more seamless and non stressful and safer too, in my opinion.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, again, that's like something that I feel like I always look into is like, what is the safest neighborhood to stay in in this city and what is the, like, you know, you know, like you want to be able to feel good about like where you're going and feel like you have, you want to feel as comfortable so that you can enjoy your experience instead of feeling anxious, you know, like where you are or where you're staying. And you know, like, hotel reviews are important. You know, like, I do that so much research. Like, what did people say about it, like, you know, going down the rabbit hole? If they're like, well, there's construction that's been going on for like the next last week, you know, I gotta make sure that's done before I send my clients there. You know, those things are super important because they can totally like, you know, put a damper on your trip. I don't want to say ruin it because you can find positive things no matter what happens, but, you know, put a damper on things, you know, so it is super helpful to have somebody who kind of knows or has tips, right? So it's like, well, you know, everybody says, you know, Paris, like Charles de Gaulle is like the biggest airport that has a lot of flights, but it's okay to fly into Orly, the other airport, because it's actually closer to the, to the city. So it's like a shorter Uber ride, you know. So like, you know, it's. Those are like little tips and tricks that you know, you might not know. Or for example, when you dance. I rented, I rented a car on the island of Crete and I did my research beforehand and it says like one of the things that you do when you drive is that you pull to the, to the right, even in the shoulder to allow cars to pass.
That tip was so helpful when I was driving in Crete because I was like, what are these people doing? I already knew they were like, oh, they're letting me pass. Or oh, there's someone coming fast behind me. Let me pull over. So that instead of being afraid to like, go into the shoulder. Like, I knew that little tip, you know, that made my driving experience so much easier on the island of Crete, you know, so there's like, all kinds of little things, especially if you're working with someone. I've booked many, many trips to Paris because I've been there many times, you know, like, so having someone who has that experience always is helpful. Those little things that can make it just a tad easier.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: For sure.
Yeah. And I know that even with, like, for instance, I've thought about, you know, do I travel with Ava or not with Ava for certain trips? Because some countries are very dog friendly and they're not so strict and actually amazed me because I think it's Sweden and Finland is actually very dog friendly.
They don't require, you know, it sounds like, wow, that's cool. So I could definitely travel to, like, Sweden or Finland with her. Italy too, I think would probably be fine. You just have to do that whole vet thing ahead of time. But, you know, and then there are certain places where I probably wouldn't take her. Like, I probably wouldn't take her on my African safari trip, you know.
[00:26:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:45] Speaker A: But.
Yeah. And then I even had something. When I was going from Florence, Italy to Paris, I planned on taking the train and I had my ticket purchased ahead of time. I ended up being able to get my money back, but something happened where there was some delay or it wasn't running. You know, things like that can happen. So I ended up booking a flight last minute to from Florence into Paris.
And so, you know, you can run into things like that when traveling too. And. But, you know, you can always find solutions or things for unexpected.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: And sometimes you just have to, like, let go and trust that the process, you know, and be like, all right, I have an extra day here, or I've got a few more hours or I'm going to. You know. And like, before I became a travel advisor, I, like, didn't even think about travel insurance, but I buy it for myself now.
Like, I am all about travel insurance now. And it's like. And I can, if somebody was interested in that. I also can travel insurance. But it gives you peace of mind, especially for certain things, like when you're traveling to a bunch of different cities. So, like, if transportation gets canceled or something like that, you can get your money back. Or if you're. Another good reason to use it is if you, like, are renting a car because you can get extra, like rental insurance, you know, for car. For cars and stuff like that. So. And they're so much easier to deal with than like having to go through the company that, you know, the rental car agency company or whatever, you know. And so, you know, my dad had a backpack and the backpack broke and like he was able to get his insurance to pay for the backpack strap to like get fixed. Like just like all kinds of things, like little things that you're able to, like just in case like something occurs that you're able to, you know, you don't have to worry so much. Like it gives you like a little peace of mind. Especially when you have lots of tickets or lots of things that you've purchased ahead of time that are not refundable.
It doesn't work for non, for refundable things, you know, like obviously, like, but for non refundable things it's such a really.
It just like has provided me with so much peace of mind.
[00:28:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:57] Speaker B: In case something, you know, there's an airport strike or something, you know, like these things happen and travel insurance is there to support you did not not feel like you're having to spend tons of money or stuck somewhere, you know.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. And is there anything else you want to share with your travel advising today with everybody that you'd want to share with everyone?
[00:29:24] Speaker B: I just say go for it. Really. Like don't, don't put it off. Like if you.
And one of the best ways to do it, like let's say you're on a limited budget because I'm sure there's people here who are like I don't have money to travel or whatever, you know, you can book things in pieces. So like let's say you plan out in advance, book your flight out in advance, then wait a few months and book your hotels. Like if you need to, like make sure you're not putting all this on a credit card or whatever, like give yourself some time, book it in advance, like book it in pieces, you know, and that way you don't feel like it's like all coming out of your bank big town at one time, you know.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:30:00] Speaker B: Make a plan and, or save a certain amount or whatever. Like that's always possible to do. And like I highly, highly recommend solo traveling. Like if you want to have a life changing experience, like don't wait for the boyfriend, don't wait until this, don't wait until that. Just go like figure it out. It's worth it. It's always worth it to go. I, I've never ever been disappointed that I traveled ever, you know, like.
Yeah.
[00:30:34] Speaker A: And I think there's something to be said when you go solo to a location, say, and then you end up being together later and then go together. At least you each had your own experience solo. And then you come together and go on that trip.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: Absolutely. You can go back to another city. I've been to the same city many times. I've been to Rome a few times. I've been Paris a few times, been Barcelona a couple times. Like, you can always go back to a place that you enjoy and love. There are no rules about having to only go somewhere once. And, you know, places have different types of experiences for different people. And also, like, I've traveled solo. I love booking tours when I'm traveling solo because I always meet people on the tours. Every single time I've met people on tours, like on a bus tour, I met this couple on this. You know, like, there are so many ways to meet other travelers while you're on tours. It's just like, you know that they're tourists, you know, so you're like, everyone's in the same mode of, like, learning about a place and getting to know each other. So. Yeah, I think it's a great way to solo travel.
[00:31:39] Speaker A: I totally agree. I love the. The booking, all the. The tours.
[00:31:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:44] Speaker A: And can you share with everybody how they can get a hold of you, Marissa, for your travel advising?
[00:31:51] Speaker B: So I would say, like, the best way to reach me is to just send me an email, and that is@marissa alejandra.com so that's probably the best, easiest, most direct way if someone wants to reach out to me and book something, like via and like, learn a little bit more.
You can go to fora travel.com advisor at/marissa-alejandra-molina so I'll give you the links. I'm sure you can put it in the show notes for people that that's the best way to kind of look at some of the places in my reviews with some of my clients and.
Yeah, that's the best, I think.
Absolutely. Well, thanks for having me on.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: Yes. Thank you so much for coming on today.
Thank you for the Dr. Random podcast and.
Yes. And yeah, I'm sure I will be connecting with you soon about some upcoming travels that I want to do myself, so.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:32:56] Speaker A: And hopefully we'll do a trip together at some point.
[00:32:58] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll make it happen sometime.
[00:33:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
All right, well, thank you so much, Marissa, and thanks, everybody for listening and ciao.
