[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to the Dr. Random podcast. I'm Dr. Sarah, and here's the deal. We don't do boxes here. Every episode is different.
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Hello, and welcome to the Dr. Random Podcast. I'm Dr. Sarah, and as always, I'm excited to be here today because I have a new guest who I've known for quite a while now. And so today we have Lysandra Joy.
And we met in San Diego through a women's networking group called Elite Networking Group.
And, yeah, that was great. We just became good friends after that. And so, yeah.
And Lysandra, she is just amazing. She's an amazing friend. And today we're going to talk all about skin care, because that is her jam, that is her expertise, and we really connected on that because, as I'm sure people know, or if you know me well, I'm very passionate skincare. I think I spend more on skin care than clothes, so.
But, yeah. So happy to have you here, Lissandra.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: Thank you. Happy to be here.
[00:01:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And for the listeners who may not know you yet, how would you.
Let's go ahead and just have you introduce yourself.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: Yes, I'm Lysandra Joy. I am a licensed esthetician, skincare expert.
Also a little bit of styling expertise, but for the most part, beauty expert from California, San Diego area, but grew up in Palm Springs, and now I'm in Atlanta area, Georgia, doing my skin care thing as well.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: Awesome. Yeah. And I actually.
Yeah. So we met in San Diego, and she's in Atlanta now. And I actually went for my first time to Atlanta a couple months ago, and we met up and had some amazing food.
What was the name of that restaurant we ate at? Do you remember?
[00:02:20] Speaker B: South City Kitchen.
[00:02:21] Speaker A: South City Kitchen. Okay. Oh, my gosh. It was amazing.
I was like the Fried Green Tomatoes.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Right?
[00:02:30] Speaker A: I was. I remember. That was amazing. I thought it was so good.
[00:02:33] Speaker B: All pretty good. It was just. I got so full, too.
You gotta come back.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I was staying with my friend Nino, and his husband was traveling. Traveling for work, doing fashion design for film, which is interesting.
And I swear their house looks like it's out of a Pottery Barn catalog.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: Oh, really?
Yeah.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: And Atlanta is just so cute, I thought. And I went to the fashion museum
[00:03:01] Speaker B: when they had the Victor and Ralph.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: Yes. That was so cool. But yeah, so Dr. Kara and Luis, I went there that weekend in Atlanta to see her with a live collective. She was doing a presentation, and it was really amazing. So I was supporting her. Got to see you. Got to see Nino. That was just an amazing trip. It was totally worth it.
Yeah.
And so you describe yourself as boss woman in their second renaissance era. So what.
So what does that phrase mean to you? And who are the women you're most passionate about serving in your skincare?
[00:03:42] Speaker B: So, yes, I mean, it's over 45. Over 40, 45, 50 plus women.
We're all in our second act, and we're not like we're laying down and letting life just run over us. We're actually in a. In our aspect of life where we've learned a lot, done a lot, and we're taking that experience and that knowledge and expertise and bringing it to our second half and educating and doing really cool things, traveling more, maybe even go into a second or third career.
And so it's. For me, it's like, how do I serve those women in helping them look and feel their best and deliberately deliver it effortlessly and confidently?
That's really what it's all about.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: Yes. And I used to get. So the audience knows, I used to get facials from Lissandra when I lived in San Diego. And she's amazing. And I love getting facials.
One of my favorite.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: Giving them.
[00:04:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
And, you know, it's interesting nowadays, you know, everybody using fillers and Botox and all these different things.
You know, I've believe. I don't know. I've never touched my lips with any kind of filler.
No.
And, yeah, we're blessed. We're lucky in that way.
And I've never done fillers either. But I also think a lot of that has to do with. Because of my diet, probably how I take care of myself. Also just my skincare routine, which I've always felt is so important. So I feel like when you really take care of your skin inside and out, you eliminate the need for things like that.
[00:05:27] Speaker B: For sure.
[00:05:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And so your tagline, beauty is the ritual, style is the language, and joy is the destination.
Can you unpack that for us?
[00:05:41] Speaker B: I feel like it's just really just more catchy. It's just more of like trying to make people feel the emotion of where they want to go with their beauty, with their style, with their life. We want to do it intentionally. We want to not just throw our. Throw things together day to day. Like our skincare routine, our style routine in the mornings. We really want to think about what we're doing. And I think the little bit more you put the intention on the back end of having the right, say, skincare products already set up, the right wardrobe, just your staple pieces set up, the easier it is to go into it in the mornings and not just feel flustered or frustrated.
Just making sure you get the things that you love and it's easier to make that choice in the morning or in the evening.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I, for a long time, and I hate to even say this because I talk about how much I rave about skin care, but I used to be like so lazy about washing my face at night.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: I would go to bed, all have those moments though. I think we all.
[00:06:42] Speaker A: My makeup on.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:06:44] Speaker A: And I was like. And I think I read a study where it said when you go to bed at night with your makeup on, sometimes like I guess you like age 5 years. I think that sounds kind of drastic over.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I think if you do it, it's all about consistency. If you're gonna, if you do that every night, yeah, it's gonna be a problem.
But here and there is not gonna kill you. We all have those moments where we had a great night, you know, and yeah, come home and we just lay down and forget to get back up and wash our face.
It's not gonna be the death of us. But you definitely don't want to make that a thing on a regular basis
[00:07:21] Speaker A: and kind of getting into your origin story in entrepreneurship.
So let's go back to the beginning. So you served in the US Navy and later worked as a healthcare administrator with the Department of Veterans affairs, which is amazing.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: And what was that chapter of your life like?
[00:07:44] Speaker B: It was a good life. I mean, I think I did all the things I set out to do. I joined 20. 20. No, 19 years old actually. 19 years old, yeah. Served for what, eight and a half years.
I was in healthcare field in the Navy. So I feel like I'm still kind of like not necessarily in health care, but definitely it's a wellness and taking care of your skin is. And being in the spa is definitely a self care wellness and kind of it helps you with your, your mind, body, soul. So I still think I carried that on through that. I've always been interested in helping people and that's really what that was all about in the Navy and even in the Veterans Affairs, I was in the health care system as well, helping veterans with their ability claims.
So I just always want to help and do the best I can in that aspect So I think people feel like it's a 18360 degree change, but I don't necessarily think so. When you think about the behind the scenes of it still weaving through the healthcare wellness aspect.
And I've always been more feminine, girly girl. I mean, we, we definitely have the feminine girly girls in the Navy.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: So that, that's there. Yes.
[00:08:56] Speaker A: And so, and you, I don't know if you listen to.
I did a podcast with Veterans Future foundation and Johnny Martin. He was speaking about the transition of going from military into career in that whole transition. So it's interesting.
So with, you know, in a way, I felt like you're perfect to kind of talk about that because what ultimately made you leave the, you know, federal career to pursue the beauty and skincare full time was probably just your passion, I would assume, for skincare.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it was more my passion and just doing something. Yeah. Doing. Living the passion. I probably was watching too much or scrolling I should say too much Instagram.
Maybe that was a part of it too, and wanting to do something a little bit more beautified in life. But yeah, it was really, really just about the passion of it all.
Wanting to get out and live life too a little bit more and kind of see what's, what's more out there than the government. Although the government is great. It's a great career for sure. Sometimes I, you know, second guess, like, did I do the right thing?
But no, I wanted to just explore a little bit more in life.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
And now I love, I remember we really connected on this about you because I had a special relationship with my grandmother who's dear to me and very close to me and your grandmother.
Now correct me if I'm saying her wrong, her name incorrectly. Is it Elvina or Elvina Vine.
And. And that shaped both your love of beauty and your decision to become an entrepreneur.
I just thought that's such an amazing story. Do you want to talk about her? And I even think it'd be fun to talk about her connection with Sinatra. Right.
Yeah.
Do you want to talk about that?
[00:10:54] Speaker B: I think the audience of vine is named after my grandmother, Elvina Jubert. Her nickname that she went by was Vine.
So I thought it was a great tribute and a beautiful business name to go with House of Vine. She wasn't necessarily a beauty maven, but she had very minimal chick style. She's very just matter of fact about how she dressed and she wasn't big on makeup and all of that, but she loved a beautiful home like her houses Would be laid out. Like, she was very big on decor and just very big on just being organized and very big on her family and taking care of her family. And so she did that by working for Frank Sinatra. If many don't know, he lived in Palm Springs. His main home was in Palm Springs. And so that's where she worked with him in his main home, starting as a housekeeper, but also like his personal assistant, personal caretaker as well. So she worked with him for about 25 years until he died in 98. So, yeah, they were pretty. Pretty close. Pretty amazing. Like, I spent. We spent as her grandkids, plenty of days at his house, just galloping around while she worked. A lot of times he wouldn't be there, and we would just kind of run him in the house.
Yeah. And went to some of his granddaughter's birthday parties as well, when we were really young.
[00:12:14] Speaker A: So he.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: I mean, at the time, I had no idea, you know.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: Necessarily. I mean, I knew he was somebody important, but didn't really realize it until actually until he died, really.
Which is crazy. But, yeah, now I listen to his songs and I just love it. Makes me think of her and him and the moments that I did meet him and how amazing that actually was.
[00:12:37] Speaker A: I love that story. I just think that's so amazing.
And, of course, you know, he's a legend. Icon, Right?
[00:12:45] Speaker B: Totally.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: And it seems like he's timeless, like it doesn't matter, you know?
[00:12:50] Speaker B: Right. But you can always apply some of him, some of Frank in there.
[00:12:55] Speaker A: And I think that speaking of your grandmother and the fact that you guys were invited to participate around his family, like you went to some of his granddaughter, I mean, that just speaks to how they are, too.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: You're a good people.
Yeah, they were good people.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Because, you know, sometimes people who work for people, they don't really involve their family much. So I think.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:13:18] Speaker A: Speaks to, like, how probably loving and welcoming and friendly and just happy he was to be around.
And, you know, I love that.
And I think that's just such special memories you have with your grandma and the fact that, you know, in the name of your business, House of Vine.
And I love that name.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: I love it, too.
Yeah.
[00:13:46] Speaker A: And so now the business, of course, is in her honor. Is there anything besides what you just shared that's another memory or anything that stands out to you?
[00:13:58] Speaker B: I just wanted to keep her memory alive and just always kind of thinking of how I pursue things and thinking of her and what she would think or feel or say.
It just kind of keeps that Alive. Her memory.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
And looking back, would you say, as being an entrepreneur and starting your business and, you know, putting your passions into it, what would you say are some of the hardest parts? Financially, emotionally, or, you know, practically as a single woman stepping into being known as an entrepreneur that maybe you want to share with maybe people listening who are just. Who are already in their businesses or looking to start a business,
[00:14:44] Speaker B: it's pretty hard. I mean, I think it's hard emotionally, financially, especially when you're single, is even more hard. But it's. It's doable.
Think we have to be kind of.
I think I stepped out of it. Maybe not as. I don't want to say realistic, because I want to be the big dreamer, and I want everybody to dream their dream and go. Go big, but just making sure you're doing it realistically, taking baby steps and not letting go of the dream, but just doing it in a way that doesn't necessarily blow up your life. You just want to take the steps to make sure that.
And I guess for me, I felt like it's like going. I was like, I'm like, go hard or go home.
And I realized in the last few years, I definitely have to just take a step back from that and just baby steps. And baby steps doesn't mean you're not doing it the way you want to do it or that you're not truly an entrepreneur, but you also want to be able to live a good life, too, in the midst of it all.
[00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's so true. Like me starting, you know, just my art business, doing the podcast and being single sometimes.
Oh, thank you.
And I think that, you know. And I know that you.
I was going to talk about this later, but you have a boyfriend. All right, Me?
[00:16:09] Speaker B: Yeah, no, we're gonna skip that part.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I'll cut that out.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: No, it's fine. No, that ended. You know, some people you just can't take with you in the next chapter. That's all that is.
Okay.
Sucks for him.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Well, I'll talk to you about this later. We can either leave this.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fine. You can keep it. But, yeah, okay. We'll talk deeper on it.
[00:16:37] Speaker A: Real. Okay. All right. Oh, my goodness. Okay.
But, yeah, I think that I'm not sure, and I feel like you're in my boat. This.
It's hard being single in our 40s and doing life, and there's its challenges, but there's its blessings, too. But I think that, you know, I think people just need to realize that it's like give us some credit here, you know, that's what I think.
[00:17:12] Speaker B: I think it shows a lot of strength too. It's a lot of strength, especially when you're in your 40s, single and you're also still pursuing bigger things, not just your everyday 9 to 5, which is fine too. But we're also, you know, taking, taking the risk to do other things outside the norm.
Yeah.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: And you know, you started House of Vine as a home based studio in San Diego and how would you say the business has evolved since your move to Atlanta?
[00:17:43] Speaker B: Gosh, it's evolved.
Well, when I moved to Atlanta I took it into a salon suite. I had an actual brick and mortar business which did that for like three years.
And then, and that was even with I came moved here right before the pandemic and then started that business in the pandemic and took it still operated it for three years past that.
But it just got, I don't know, I guess I think we feel like we start a business and it has to start and end that way, but it really doesn't. Like there's ebbs and flows and it might start one way, end another way or start one way, change up in the middle and then maybe end the same way it started, who knows?
So right now I'm pretty much back to home based because I also do work as well, but more home based business and virtual.
So I actually feel like that's a little bit more freeing and I do like that, that aspect as well. But it can be harder or more difficult to get clients or you have, you can't just market to anyone as far as it being in the home. But the virtual aspect, I can. So it just depends. And I mean, I guess we have to realize our businesses aren't for everyone and that's okay too.
[00:18:55] Speaker A: My art isn't for everyone, right?
[00:18:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's easy. Yeah, it wouldn't be for everybody.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: And as far as like your skin care philosophy and expertise as a practicing esthetician, what's your core philosophy would you say when it comes to skin care, like what do you feel like has been a consistent throughout the years that you feel like maybe is something that's
[00:19:28] Speaker B: still like taking time for yourself. Like everybody's like, oh, I don't have time to do that, I don't have time. It's like, why not? You don't have five minutes to wash your face at night and five minutes in the morning just to put a little blush and mascara on. You know, I feel like that use sometimes for something else, you know, whatever it may be for that person.
But, I mean, really, I definitely feel like we are judged by our appearance, and so you have to think about that. You know, we don't. We can't. We're not judged by our personality. First off, the first time you meet someone so looking, you know, we don't have to come out looking like a Hollywood movie star, of course, but you need to just look put together, look away, look like you care for yourself.
And that's really what. You know, what I do this for, like, just a little something, you know, I'm a little bit more naturalistic, too. I'm not like, super. Like, Atlanta is very.
A little bit more big in the makeup and clothes, and I'm. I still have my Cali vibes. I'm a little bit more minimal, naturalistic looking and a little bit slight, a little boho eclectic. So, yeah, a little bit more chill with it, but still make it happen.
[00:20:38] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like you've always had good style, so.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Thanks.
I try.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And, you know, what you just brought up made me think of something, because I saw recently this study, and somebody else told me something, and I was like, wow, I never actually thought of that.
That girls who wore makeup made, like, 30% more money.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I was hearing that, too.
Yeah. I was like, I believe it, though. Yeah. I believe. Because even myself without anything on, it's like, no.
Oh. I mean, I'm. You know, it's like you're still beautiful, minimal and natural, your natural self, but going. Taking it outside the house. And if you're trying to make money or be something to do a little something to yourself.
[00:21:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
And.
Yeah. And I think that I also heard somebody said something. She's like.
How did she word it exactly? She said something like, oh, you already win 25 of a foot in the door somewhere. If you have a Persona where you take care of yourself and you have a confidence and, you know, you take care of yourself.
And I don't even think it's so much about how people. Because that can be fleeting. Who's good looking, who's not. That's a skill you can't do.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:22:02] Speaker A: But it's more about the time you put into yourself. Myself, you can tell if somebody, you know what I mean, they have a Persona about them or something, like, I take care of myself, you know, And I think that's important, and I think that is true, so.
And the thing with skin care is it, you know, it doesn't matter how much makeup you put on if you're not taking care of the skin underneath.
[00:22:25] Speaker B: Right.
[00:22:25] Speaker A: And I'm sure you testify to this. It's. It really is the most important thing.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Definitely you can't have a bunch of makeup on and not have good skin because that shows too.
So you definitely want to take the time to figure out your skin and get it looking decent.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And why do you think the approach is so important, especially for women in their 40s and beyond with skincare?
[00:22:51] Speaker B: Because you're gonna only have that. You only have one face, you only have one skin over your whole body. So you want to take care of it just like your body inside and out. You.
We have to, we want to go long.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:03] Speaker B: But we have to take that time to figure it out and see what it likes, what's best for it and be consistent. It's more consistency doesn't have to be perfect, but if you keep it going over time on a regular basis, it's going to make a big difference than not.
[00:23:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
And yeah, that's so true because it's like, I think of how skin is like the biggest organ in our body, you know?
[00:23:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:33] Speaker A: And yeah, that's, I think, why I believe in the hot Bikram yoga so much. Because it's like you're sweating and like
[00:23:41] Speaker B: the letting all that toxins out.
I mean, definitely when you sweat to your skin, like, it makes a big difference on your skin and how you glow. Like, I noticed that too. If I'm working out a lot and sweating a lot, like, that's even beyond skin care. That does a lot more for your skin too.
Yeah.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: And say someone was like coming into your studio for a facial and I don't know, pretend they're like brand new to skin care. Like, what would you say, say, is the best routine as far as layering on products or.
I don't know, what would you say is not even like Core Basic, just a little higher than that? Like, you know, because I know I used to get confused on when you put sunscreen on your serum, your moisturizer and your eye cream, like, what is the best order of all that, you know, or vitamin C even.
[00:24:40] Speaker B: So I said, well, if they're new to skincare and they're just coming in for a facial, they're obviously interested, I'm assuming. So I would just get them on something basic so it's not too overwhelming. Like your cleanser, I would say a toner, but even if that might be too much for some people, but definitely cleanser, toner and moisturizer.
You definitely want to get cleanser. That's the base for everything. So if nothing else, a decent cleanser is the number one thing to have. And we can build up on over time with everything else. But you just want to start thick. Thinnest to thicker. If you're built like you say, you start with that basic routine and you want to start adding some things in there. Just always think your thinnest to thickest.
And then your sunscreen is always the last, pretty much the last thing you're going to put on because it's protecting you from the sun.
[00:25:27] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:25:30] Speaker B: I might be.
So your toner. So they say your. So it's their cleanser which is always. No matter what you're going to do, you're. Then you have your toner, then you have your serum, then you have. Sometimes people put oil on. So then you have your oils and then you have your moisturizer.
So then to thick.
You want to end with the thickest thing.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I.
Right now I use the Yonka skin toner for moisturizing. I've been using that since I was like 19 or 20.
[00:26:03] Speaker B: Is that a thicker toner? Is it a thicker or.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: No, it's a spray. No, it's really misty. It smells so good. I feel like you're like having a spa experience, I think almost. I love that vibe, hydrating.
It kind of smells like rosemary a little bit maybe, but like rose.
[00:26:20] Speaker B: I know which one you're talking about. Yes.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: So I, Yeah, I don't know. I use that and then I have my, my serums and then sunscreen moisturizer. But I normally put on. It's like a vitamin C sunscreen actually.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:26:38] Speaker A: Put that under my moisturizer. But now I'm thinking maybe I need to do that as last step like you just said.
[00:26:44] Speaker B: I mean, if it's kind of the same thing, it's okay. I mean, it is okay. Sometimes you can even mix your sunscreen with your moisturizer a little bit and just put it on that way.
Yeah, that's okay too.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:57] Speaker B: Especially if it's the same level of consistency. Then it's not, it's not fine. Kill you to do it that way.
Yeah.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: And yeah, that's just. I love skincare. It's like important.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Right? It's. It's fun. Like it's surprising. I mean, I work in a spa, hotel spa and like people coming for massages all day and night and have never gotten facials. And I feel like it's so strange to me. Like I started out with. Before I was esthetician, I started out getting facials before I ever got thought about a massage.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: For me, it's backwards and it's just like, how can you have never gotten a facial of some sort? But. Yeah. Well, it's very new to a lot of people.
[00:27:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
I'm like, no facials.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: Right, Sorry.
[00:27:41] Speaker A: I'm like.
[00:27:41] Speaker B: But, you know, a lot of times people are more into the product. I mean, I know over the pandemic, the products were big. That's what was selling a lot. And so it's more about if you can't get the facial, then at least have the right products.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: So.
[00:27:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Or if you don't. Or if you're not into facial. Some people just don't like people touching their face, which I get it. So you just have to find the right esthetician for you.
[00:28:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I. I think everybody, at least every six months should get a European facial. This is just my opinion.
And then every month, if you can, if it's in your budget, do a mini facial.
Because what they can do, they can also. So sometimes they'll like, dermaplane you or wax your eyebrows.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: Right. They just go a little deeper.
[00:28:24] Speaker A: Yes. Guys are listening. Girls wax their lip. We clean up our eyebrows and we dermaplane our face. Or we.
Some girls wax their face. Some girls dermaplane.
I have a derma wand or dermaplane. I forget the correct thing at home.
But I have struggled with finding the right refills for the blade on it or the whatever.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: Right.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: Because it's not just so everybody knows dermaplaning isn't shaving. It's not shaving your face. It's different the way it works. It removes dead skin.
[00:28:58] Speaker B: Just removes those vapor hairs and the skin. The dead skin, that top layer.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
And I don't touch my eyebrows really. I just do a cleanup underneath, you know, like a little like, whatever.
[00:29:15] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't really touch mine too much either. I mean, I usually have to really do it, but yeah, I'll try to keep it clean. But yeah. Comes a point where you have to get them done.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
And then trying to think, too, with, what do you think about.
And I think you're. If I remember correctly, you're a big believer in LED therapy and clinical grade products.
Do you kind of want to talk about that with audience?
[00:29:48] Speaker B: LED therapy? I mean, it's one of those things. Like, I have one. I have a Dennis Gross one at home, but I definitely believe it's the LED red light. I Have been starting to hear a lot of controversy about it, so. But I do see a difference when I use it for sure.
The red light is built to smooth out the skin, refine it. It helps with fine lines and your pores and it also helps calm the skin after you've had like some kind of like a peel or something a little bit or a microderm or whatever hydrafacial.
So that red light calms it down as well.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:30:29] Speaker B: Which I love it. I love what a red light can do. And same with the blue light. Blue light is really helping with the acne bacteria, getting rid of all that off the skin.
[00:30:39] Speaker A: Okay.
So people struggling with acne, you'd recommend that?
[00:30:43] Speaker B: Mm, definitely.
You just do a little at home. One you can do Dennis Gross or they have some other versions as well you could find. And if you have questions about it, ask you ask me. Or you can just ask somebody that might know another skin skincare professional or dermatologist.
Yeah. But if you're struggling with your skin, definitely get a red light a couple times a week, three times a week, you know, to actually see some difference.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: I learned something.
[00:31:14] Speaker B: I mean you see a difference right away. Like I.
Yeah, I have my moments where I'm in and out. There's some weeks I'm using it three times a week and some weeks when I'm not, it just depends on, on what's going on with the week. But even if I use it one time after I do like a major facial at home, I see the difference right after.
So imagine using it all the time
[00:31:35] Speaker A: and clinical grade regimen pro.
Are you still affiliated with?
[00:31:41] Speaker B: I am, but I have not been working it as much. But skin care, the skin, the pro grade products, I'm all about some pro grade like revision or skinceuticals, all of those obagi, definitely. But a lot of times, depending on what product in the line, usually cleansers are pretty approachable in their pricing. But a lot of those products are a lot of money and you know, not every within everybody's budget or not within, within everybody's budget on a regular basis. So I get that. So if you can do high, low or maybe you do those products, maybe I feel like in the wintertime it's a good time to use stronger, harsher products that you want to make that skin change, make a difference. That might be a time to use the more expensive products and then in the summertime you can maybe use the more cvs, Walgreens, Sephora product lines, things like that. But I definitely Believe in the higher grades.
But I mean, if you find something that's good for you, no matter what level, then if it's good for you, it's good for you.
[00:32:47] Speaker A: Yeah. I think I, I love the vitamin C from SkinCeuticals, but like you said, everybody does.
[00:32:54] Speaker B: I think everybody that uses. Yeah. They have die hard fans.
[00:33:00] Speaker A: I like it. It's just very expensive.
So it's like it really depends if
[00:33:06] Speaker B: you try to like remember the sales. I know they do like a sales at Blue Mercury every so often for the goals line. Yeah, yeah. Be strategic.
Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:18] Speaker A: But I guess like I said, sometimes I'd rather spend over a hundred dollars on a skincare product than a pair of jeans. You know what I mean?
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Because it's your skin, the only one you got, it's going to last you, you know, at least a couple months, you know.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:32] Speaker B: So it's worth it.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
And how would you say like basically your intersection of skin, skin care, style and entrepreneurship.
How do you see skin care and personal style working together to support, say, women's confidence, especially in business and her second act, which we kind of touched on already.
[00:33:56] Speaker B: I think it depends on where you are in life. But I mean, I think always a. If you care about your skin care, then you more likely care about your style.
And if you care about your style, then I feel like it's definitely the opposite, like skincare and then style. Because skin care is more of an elevated mindset. I feel like with working with people.
So you're, it's. They kind of go hand in hand like you want to. If you're going to have good skin, you want to look good in what you dress and vice versa. If you have good clothes on but your skin looks a mess, it's kind of a disconnect when people meet you. You know, it still goes with that whole first impression thing. It's like, okay, she's got a great blazer on, but what's going on with her skin? You know, so.
[00:34:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:34:38] Speaker B: So they definitely go hand in hand. And I feel like with the style it's a little bit more approachable. Not everybody's going to come to you or to me immediately for their skin care, their beauty.
But a lot of people will invest in their wardrobe before their skin.
So that's just like an intro into helping people curate the right. And it's like, I'm not doing full on styling, but just making sure you have the right staple pieces or the right travel pieces or the right pieces for maybe an event. You're doing. If you're a speaker or something like that. Just kind of helping you get that style for that moment.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: I like that.
Yeah.
[00:35:18] Speaker B: And you also want to find the right. Not just skincare, but the right makeup for you, too.
So getting your beauty wardrobe, skincare wardrobe, and your actual style wardrobe all together.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I've.
I'm such a stickler with things where it might surprise people.
Like when I have a purse or a wallet.
This is gonna sound funny. I just have it forever to, like, oh, yeah. Somebody will mention to me, like, you need a new purse or wallet. Like, I just use stuff to, like. You know what I mean?
[00:35:50] Speaker B: I don't think about it. If you use it and you still love it and it's, like, worn, you're not even thinking about it because you're like, I still love it.
I know it still works. It's still doing the job. Yeah.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: And I feel like I'm kind of that way with skin care. And I would also say, like, my supplement stacks and stuff like that. My vitamins. I've been using the same stuff for, like, since.
I know a lot of my supplement stack since, like, 2016, so 10 years now.
I've been using stuff that just now people are talking about, which is interesting. And I've been doing a lot of stuff for 10 years.
But, you know, like, with my makeup routine, it's funny when you're talking about makeup, because I'm thinking on the podcast, I'm gonna say brand, whatever. I don't know if that's allowed or not allowed on that. I don't know. But I think it's fine. But, like, I use Mary Kay in some of the makeup products I have, which I know some people will be like, what? But I swear by their concealer.
Concealer, I haven't found one.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: It works for you. That's all that matters. Yeah.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: And I've tried other ones, and I don't like it, so. And it's right. Price point is best.
But that's one thing that I just use.
[00:37:04] Speaker B: The. Mary Kay's been around forever, so it's like, obviously it's something going right, you know?
[00:37:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: And people.
[00:37:12] Speaker A: And my mom used to. My aunt used to sell Mary Kay when I was little. Just funny.
And so she kind of got me on the concealer when I was younger because I had, like.
I don't know if it's allergies, but you tend to have, like, little dark circles sometimes.
[00:37:29] Speaker B: I think that's why I keep touching my eyes today.
Yeah.
Sensitive.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: But it helps, you know, Definitely.
But yeah, and I use like, it's like. And then Giorgio Armani, I use their foundation. And then when Giorgio Armani himself died, they took his name off the bottle.
And I swear when I got the first bottle of foundation and it's just called Armani, I felt like there was something different. And I was like, what has changed? And I've been like using it forever. It was the luminous silk foundation, which
[00:37:59] Speaker B: I think is pretty cool.
[00:38:01] Speaker A: And I've been using that.
Yeah. And I've been using that forever. And I was like, okay, there's something different with this. I was like, okay. And then it was, I guess there was a chemical in it there it was in Europe, but they removed it here finally. I was like, okay, well, I guess that's better anyways, you know, like, okay, yeah. That's what's interesting about skincare industry too. Sometimes I feel like things are always changing and if you love something, it's almost like you feel like you need to hoard it and like get a supply of it because you don't know
[00:38:31] Speaker B: if it's gonna be this always getting rid of the things you love. Right. Or they're changing it. Yeah, I mean, I think when, with more research and knowledge, things will change or when they change, like they're getting bought out by bigger companies, things will change.
So yeah, we never really know when that change is going to happen.
Yeah, yeah, they do change.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: Yeah. And so you've also expanded beyond into in person services, into content creation, writing and virtual consultations like your signature Glow reset.
And so how has building a personal brand changed the way you work? And what advice would you give someone, particularly a woman mid career life transition, who wants to leave a traditional job and maybe start something on her own in the beauty or wellness space?
[00:39:25] Speaker B: I mean, if you can leave, awesome. I mean, I left at one point, but I also prepared for it. But you know, so if you can do that. Yeah, because I feel like you have a lot more energy to focus on that one thing that you're trying to push and if you can't, I mean, all we can do is like do our mornings, evenings, our days, moments off and just keep pushing consistently, which can be. It's not easy, you know, but if we love it, we keep doing it one way or the other.
I don't think I've changed anything as far as pushing it. It's just I, I mean I do work now as well, a lot as well as do my business. So I just have to find those moments Where I'm like, oh, yeah, let me.
Let me pull out my phone and do some content or make some notes on some stuff. We just kind of have to find the moments wherever they work, or whenever you have the ideas, you know, and jot it down or push it out or whatever.
And I feel like I'm getting.
I'm funny finding a little bit more footing with that and just do it whenever. I'm always like, okay, I'm going to do that when I get home tonight, or I'm going to do it when it's like, no, I'm thinking about it now. I have a moment. Let me just do it.
So it's just like doing things a little bit more in the moment. And I like, also letting go of the perfection. I think I wait. I try to wait till I'm going to get home or I'm going to do it in the morning, because I'm trying to make it feel like it needs to be a little bit more prepared or perfect. And at this point, it's like, just get it out. Like, we need to make it happen.
It's still going to be cute and perfect. You can always go back and edit something if you need to, or go back and email that person and add the extra if you missed something, missed a point or whatever. But, yeah.
[00:41:05] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think that's one thing that I always found kind of inspirational about you with your business. I feel like you're such a good entrepreneur and businesswoman, and I'm sure that a lot of people look up to you, and it's like, you know, you're like, I would say, like a badass about it. So, you know, and from the outside,
[00:41:23] Speaker B: I guess, so I don't feel that way.
[00:41:25] Speaker A: But, yeah, you are.
I always was inspired by what you were doing. Honestly, I, like, thought that was awesome that you, you know, we're doing your own business and your own thing. And I think that's more inspiring than you give yourself credit for, of how that, you know, looks to other women out there and, you know, thank you.
[00:41:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: And so would you say, like, with your personal reflections and broader impact.
So being a Navy veteran is clearly still an important part of your identity, but how does that background continue to influence the way you show up for clients and in your work?
[00:42:10] Speaker B: I think being a veteran, I think it makes you a little bit more standing by your word, standing by what you say. If you make it up, you know, you make an appointment, we're gonna stick to it, you know, just being a little bit More responsible, accountable if something goes a little. Ahri, you're, you're. I'm a little bit more quick to apologize and make it right if it's something that I did.
A little bit more regimented and organized. For sure. That's in business, life, everything.
Yeah, I think that's really it.
[00:42:43] Speaker A: No, I think that's, that makes sense because it's like, you know, you have to military and I just make sure
[00:42:50] Speaker B: and I'm regimented but I'm also very like open to like the change. But yeah, you definitely want to make sure.
Yeah, I think I'm a little bit more maybe slightly type A on myself rather than holding anybody else accountable for everything.
[00:43:03] Speaker A: So. Yeah.
Yeah.
And would you say like, you know, you've spoken publicly about your health journey and reaching a cancer free milestone?
[00:43:19] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:43:21] Speaker A: And how has that experience deepened your relationship with self care and intentional living?
[00:43:30] Speaker B: Good question.
Yeah. Five years cancer free. Had breast cancer treatment, triple negative. The worst one you can. Well, they say it's the worst one you can have. I don't know. I think it's.
Yeah, they just don't know where it comes from. Like they don't know the horn. Like the other ones are hormonal based. That one, they don't know what it's based on. So they say it's the worst one.
[00:43:48] Speaker A: But I don't know for sure.
[00:43:49] Speaker B: But.
So how does it shape me in self care? I think I was always there. Honestly, I don't know that it necessarily changed anything. It just made me a little bit more, I guess more not vulnerable but just more understanding of other people's journey or issue. Not necessarily journey in cancer, but just in life or whatever they might have going on. Just a little bit more forgiving of whatever they might have going on in their own life.
Just more thinking of the other person a little bit more because that can be very self.
Not in a bad, bad way, but I, I guess I'm little bit more self centered. You know, I don't have kids, I'm not married or you know, I'm divorced from long ago and so I think that makes you a little bit more self centered. But I've learned to kind of be a little bit more like serving of others.
[00:44:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:41] Speaker B: Thinking of the other person more. So.
[00:44:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that's beautiful actually.
[00:44:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:50] Speaker A: And yeah, I, I am. I can't even express words how happy I am that you came through that.
[00:44:57] Speaker B: And yes, me too.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: Stronger.
[00:45:01] Speaker B: I think also being open about it helped too. Like I know everybody has their own journey and their Own reasons for things. But a lot of people won't tell that they have a diagnosis or they don't talk about it or they keep it a secret. And I think for me, especially being in this field, like, how was I going to keep that a secret when I lost my hair and. And all those things? And so, you know, working with clients, so it's like, it was easier for just me. Like, I have cancer, you know, just put it out there. And I think that letting that out, you're not trying to cover up anything or hold anything. I think that helps, like, just move past it.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:33] Speaker B: Heal.
[00:45:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
And that's. That's just a beautiful testimony and all that. And would.
And I think, you know, would you say faith has played a role?
[00:45:49] Speaker B: I will say that. That whole cancer journey, I listened to. Which I liked him anyway, but I listened to Joel Osteen that whole time.
[00:45:58] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:45:58] Speaker B: On my serious exam, every car ride at home, like, he was. Like, I just held on to him. Everything he said.
[00:46:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:09] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:46:09] Speaker A: That's.
Would you say, when you look at where you are now versus where you started and how your definition of success has changed, Maven, with that battle with cancer and overcoming that and, like, you know, what's the one message that you would most want listeners to take away from your story?
[00:46:33] Speaker B: I feel like don't be so hard on yourself, Really. I think I can be hard on myself.
Why? I don't know or where that comes from, I can't really say. But also, don't measure yourself against what other people are doing.
Are you happy with where you're at, what you're doing, how your life feels, regardless of how it looks to somebody else?
I could give the example of, I didn't have a car for two and a half years, which, honestly was.
I was happy as heck. I mean, not to have that car payment, not to worry about driving in Atlanta. I took an Uber everywhere. I took the MARTA train everywhere.
But you have some people that will look at that like, that was. That was a real problem.
And that was hard because I know they looked at it that way. But at the same time, I'm living my best life, so without worrying about a vehicle or car payments or maintenance, you know, all of that. So it's just like. That's just an example of, like, don't worry about what other people are, you know, measuring you against. If you're okay with it and feeling good about it and you're making your life work, then do what you do. Yeah.
[00:47:41] Speaker A: That's.
You're Gonna make me terrible.
[00:47:47] Speaker B: Now I do have a car. And I'm like, but, yeah, but it's just the next level of life, you know? And.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, no, that's. I love that. That's amazing because, like, I think about two. The car thing. Oh, my God. Like, you know, I am notorious for getting hit.
I just. It's. They're never my fault either. I've had one or two that are my fault, like, a long time. You know what I mean?
[00:48:13] Speaker B: Right. Yeah.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: I feel like I've, you know, in the last three years, I've been hit twice, so. And that, like, makes me a PTSD when I'm. I always, like, think, oh, my God, me too.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: I have the same thing.
[00:48:27] Speaker A: I'm like, okay. And, you know, it's almost like, is it my life? It just feels like it's easier without a car.
[00:48:36] Speaker B: Feeling like that now, I'm like, oh, yeah.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: It's like, I just want to hire a driver full time.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: Right.
Uber is your driver. Uber is like, yeah.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: Because it's like, you know, I.
Gosh, I'm gonna manifest this. I'll be rich enough to where I can just have a driver because, like, I. I don't know, this feels like a hassle to me sometimes to have to drive.
[00:48:59] Speaker B: And I love, definitely experience to have the car. Like, I definitely feel the difference. I mean, it is convenient, but it's also like a whole nother thing to have to worry about.
And also the driving aspect in itself, especially out here, they don't know how to drive, so.
Yeah. Yeah, that. But I mean, I think about back on that time and, like, the judgment that some people can do and they have no clue. Clue. And it's just like, you're good. So just know that as long as you're good with it, then don't worry about it.
[00:49:28] Speaker A: Exactly. Yes.
That's. Yeah. And I love that you said that. I was just like, I love it because I feel like I deal with that a lot. I think people get concerned about me or they think something and I'm like, I'm fine.
[00:49:42] Speaker B: Worried about other people.
They're viewing it. And if you're truly fine. Yeah.
Making it work.
And if you're not, just work to get where you feel better about it or you are fine. But.
[00:49:53] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:49:55] Speaker B: A process.
Yeah.
[00:49:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
And so. And just beautiful testimony, by the way. I mean, take that with me.
And what's the one product or step in your skincare routine that you would never skip?
[00:50:12] Speaker B: I would never skip.
Well, definitely not the cleanser, but And I also like to do like an oil. I'd like to start with the.
Well, I do more balm. Like a cleansing balm as my first cleanser. And then I'll go with it. Go with the gel on the second cleanser. So always, always double cleanse one way or the other.
And then I think I would never. I mean I love a toner. Like, I don't think I will ever skip the toner, especially at getting older because your skin. Even darker skin tones are a little bit more oily. But even as you get older, they kind of dry up a little bit. And that toner just helps to all your other products to penetrate a little bit better.
So I would never skip a toner.
[00:50:52] Speaker A: Okay.
Yeah. I'm trying to think with me. I do what they call double cleansing, I guess. And I know some people are like, oh, don't use that. I use Dove soap. White Dove soap on my face still.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: Oh, do you. As a first cleanse or. Yeah.
[00:51:06] Speaker A: And then I use like dermalogica.
[00:51:10] Speaker B: So I mean, if it works for you. I. I haven't used the Dove on my face, but if it work. If it's working, you know. Yeah.
[00:51:18] Speaker A: Damage using that for like my whole life. The white Dove soap on my face.
[00:51:21] Speaker B: I mean Dove used to be the grail back in the day.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Gets off the mascara.
And what's your favorite skincare product or treatment right now?
[00:51:35] Speaker B: Right now my favorite product is Epicurean. Their enzyme concentration. It's also a toner into the toner too. They have the enzyme toner, but the concentration itself is just like. Ah, it's so good. And gives you. It's like lightly exfoliating the skin. But it also gives you this really nice glow when you put it on. Okay. I just love it. I just love it.
[00:51:57] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:51:58] Speaker B: That's my favorite safer treatment.
I mean I can never get mad at a hydrafacial.
Probably the favorite. Even my or microderm. A dry version. Either one of them. A lot of people don't like them dry microderm. But I love that too.
[00:52:13] Speaker A: Okay.
Yeah. I've had a couple.
Well, hydrafacials. Yeah. I like the hydrofacials.
I love it when they do
[00:52:29] Speaker B: like
[00:52:29] Speaker A: when the epicure and products. The pumpkin peel.
[00:52:32] Speaker B: I have a couple of pumpkin too masks.
[00:52:35] Speaker A: So I have the moisturizing mask, the green clay mask I think it is. Or the green tea mask maybe.
I don't know. I have a couple math. I have the clay mask, the moisturizing mask and the green.
[00:52:46] Speaker B: I know the Green one. Yes.
[00:52:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I love all the masks. Like to me it's like.
[00:52:51] Speaker B: Yeah, me too.
[00:52:52] Speaker A: I don't know, there's just something. And if girls, you're not doing this, you need to start. Or even guys, like when you're at home and you're gonna watch a TV show or you know.
[00:53:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:03] Speaker A: You know. Yeah. It's like amazing.
[00:53:06] Speaker B: Definitely.
[00:53:07] Speaker A: And it feels good when you take care of yourself, you know? And yeah.
[00:53:11] Speaker B: When you take that mask off, your skin is just so refreshed. Just like. Oh, like. Thank you. Even steam, like doing steam. A little bit of steam, like five minutes. I've been doing that in the mornings and even with my hair, I do steam my face and my hair because if I'm wearing my hair more natural, I'll steam it to kind of like loosen it up and like that little bit of steam every morning. I don't know what, what it is, but it does give you like a nice little glow throughout the week.
[00:53:36] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. And it clears out your just like
[00:53:40] Speaker B: a little quick five minute, three minutes of steam in the morning.
Yeah.
[00:53:45] Speaker A: And you get the wash. What I. My favorite part about masks, so everybody knows is like you get the washcloth super, super hot and then you put it.
[00:53:52] Speaker B: Oh yeah.
[00:53:53] Speaker A: Just let it sit there for a second.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: Right. Like.
Yep. Work it in.
[00:53:59] Speaker A: Yeah. It feels so good.
[00:54:00] Speaker B: It does.
[00:54:02] Speaker A: And I actually have the epicuren six step system.
[00:54:07] Speaker B: So the enzyme should be in there, right?
[00:54:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Is that the orangey one?
Yeah.
[00:54:12] Speaker B: Have a gel one too that goes after it. They're both so good.
[00:54:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:17] Speaker B: I love doing that in facials.
[00:54:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Everybody leaves so glowy.
[00:54:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
I feel like I love that those three, which is I think the protein gel, the enzyme protein and the toner with that.
I like to do that when I go to the gym because I don't wear makeup, but it just feels like it kind of like gives you.
You know, because I wear makeup when I go to the gym, right. Maybe a few times.
Yeah.
And would you say morning person or night owl when it comes to your beauty rituals?
[00:54:55] Speaker B: Do I have to choose? No.
[00:54:58] Speaker A: No.
[00:54:58] Speaker B: But I would say probably more night. I'm more. I'm like a mid morning person. But if I have to choose to want one of those, I'd say night, evening person. That's when I really get into the skin care.
The morning time, not a whole lot. I might rinse like I'll cleanse my face in the morning if I've done like a treatment at night, like a retinol glycol something at night. But in the morning, I'll use like a creamier cleanser or oil cleanser. But I don't typically cleanse my face if I haven't done anything to it at night. I'll just wipe it down with the washcloth, refresh it, and then reapply moisturizer serum.
Yeah.
[00:55:38] Speaker A: And you know you're gonna laugh at me, so you know how sometimes when you put it on your face, you have, like, little excess.
Okay, this is gonna sound like a funny question. Where do you wipe it? This is gonna sound weird.
[00:55:51] Speaker B: I normally call my decollete. I mean, sometimes maybe my hands for sure, but definitely all my. My whole decollete. My back of my neck. That's the missed area. The back of your neck more so if you have short hair. Like, the weather, the sun doesn't really affect it unless you have short hair. But you can see the difference if you're not. Yeah.
So neck decollete. I'll just kind of go breasts. You want to get your breasts, too.
[00:56:16] Speaker A: You're. You're gonna laugh at me. I normally do. Like, neck. If it's not neck, like you said decollete, but that is true. Like, ears. Like putting products on your ears or behind your neck.
[00:56:25] Speaker B: Behind that.
[00:56:26] Speaker A: Yep, behind the neck. Ears. I feel like you're right. Is like, so neglected. And then, like, I'll kind of like rub it on the. The top of my hands or chest or then you're gonna love me side of my booty.
[00:56:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:39] Speaker A: Because this is weird audience, but, like, I'm normally. You get out of the shower. You're normally not wearing much, so it's
[00:56:45] Speaker B: like, right, okay, I'm just gonna wear anything. Wherever you can get it. Oh, my God. I haven't did this lately.
Yeah.
[00:56:52] Speaker A: Like, why not? You know, that area needs care.
[00:56:56] Speaker B: Needs a little love, too.
Love it.
[00:57:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And then.
So would you say best piece of business advice you've ever received?
[00:57:10] Speaker B: God, so much business advice. Like, it starts to get, like, I start to get confused.
Good question. I think I'll be stumped for a minute.
I heard something lately. I can't remember what it was, but it did stick with me. I think it was on Instagram. But don't invest anything you're not going to have for the next at least 10 years.
[00:57:31] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:57:31] Speaker B: That really stuck with me, I guess because I'm getting older. I don't know. But if I don't think I'm gonna have it for at least 10 years.
Like an investment type thing. Why? Okay. You know Then why. I get it. So I thought about my house. I thought about the car, the next handbag, even, like, you know, career move, maybe. Career move. Business. Things about adding stuff to my business. Like, I thought about going into permanent jewelry as well as another, you know, stream.
And I'm like, okay, if I'm not gonna have this machine for two, but that machine will last 10 years. Like, yeah. Or at least five. Maybe five, because 10 could be a bit extreme. But definitely five years. Yeah, I'm liking that. I like that it makes you think, like, okay, what am I doing with this? Am I buying this?
[00:58:21] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's good. I like that.
[00:58:24] Speaker B: I'll.
[00:58:25] Speaker A: I'm gonna have that in the back of my head now whenever. Making decisions. That's a good one.
[00:58:30] Speaker B: So sad. I can't remember where I heard it from.
But yeah, okay.
[00:58:35] Speaker A: That's all right.
And if you could collaborate with, like, any beauty brand or person, who would it be and why?
[00:58:47] Speaker B: I am thinking about going back with. I don't know if people would know. Sorella Apothecary. It's. It's professional line that professional estheticians use in their facials.
Apothecary. They're usually at, like, the pro shows and stuff, but I love their line, so I'm thinking about going back into them as far as what I use in my facials. And then another line I would like to work with. I mean, there's so many.
I think I would just stick with them for now. That's really where I'm been thinking about for the most part, Sorella, because I love how they. Their products are really good, but their. Their packaging is so beautiful too.
Does all the things. Yeah.
[00:59:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like.
Did maybe probably.
[00:59:34] Speaker B: Or probably maybe used it on you, because I did have. You have.
[00:59:36] Speaker A: Okay. It kind of sounds familiar, but okay.
Well, that's awesome.
And would you.
I don't know. Is there anything else on Skincare today you kind of want to share touch on with everybody?
[00:59:54] Speaker B: I don't think so. Just make sure you do it. If you have any questions, definitely reach out. I love to help and answer questions, help you figure some things out for your next steps, but I don't think so.
[01:00:09] Speaker A: Okay. And where can you tell the audience where people could find you online or learn more about working with you or explore resources and regimens that you recommend?
[01:00:18] Speaker B: I
[email protected] l y s A N D R A.
You can work me with me. All my package selections are on there. I have a blog on there, so if you're just looking to figure things out, you can read the blog.
You can message me on there as well.
I do virtual in person.
And so, yeah, whatever you like more help with your skin or your basic style.
I would love to.
[01:00:52] Speaker A: And, Lissandra, it's so much fun. And we always have so much fun.
I know there's a cute picture of us in Little Italy eating.
[01:01:03] Speaker B: I was so, like, annoyed that day because I. I don't want to spend any money, but it was, like, such a fun. That's always when you have the best fun, when you're not supposed to be spending any money. But.
[01:01:13] Speaker A: Yeah, right.
Speaking to single girls, how our mindset is. Everybody knows we're always thinking about that. It's, you know, and I think it's part of the armor of it, you know?
[01:01:24] Speaker B: Right. We always make it through. Yeah.
[01:01:28] Speaker A: Yep. And any final thoughts or encouragement you'd like to leave the listeners with today,
[01:01:34] Speaker B: just know that your beauty is boss.
You are beautiful.
Sarah's beautiful, but her audience is beautiful.
And you just have to approach it with intention.
That's all.
[01:01:47] Speaker A: I love you, girl. I love that.
Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Lissandra, for coming on the Dr. Random podcast. I hope everybody listening could, like, just feel our energy, how much fun it's talking about skincare, how much we love it.
[01:02:05] Speaker B: Right.
[01:02:05] Speaker A: And maybe you learned something new.
And yeah. So thanks again, everybody. Reach out to Lissandra.
She gives amazing facials if you're in the Atlanta area.
And again, thanks, everybody, for listening to the Dr. Random podcast.
And ciao.
[01:02:31] Speaker B: Don't.
